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Old 01-18-2007, 05:25 AM
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stability critaria

dear all,
my knoledge about stabilty is confined to GZ curves, cross curves etc and I know the hydrostatics as good; but I have to know about the term " stabilty critaria" from u!
specially when I use the demo of hydromax , i see that for Large angle stability analysis or limiting KG analysis ,a stability critaria is to be selected , there are many list of critarias,
would you please give me a bit knoledge about these critaria and if u can provide me any link which is describes that critaria which are given in hidromax ?

I think you have understood my question and hope u will reply to me to about that!
thanks!
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:07 PM
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Dear Pavel915

The stability criteria will vary depending upon the nature of the vessel, the types of hazards that it will be exposed to, the types of operation and the nature of the testing method.

You might like to download the draft standard that we are working on for intact stability criteria at http://www.nmsc.gov.au/documents/NSC...ion_6A_2nd.pdf

This should explain the variations in criteria.

The file might take some time to download so please be patient.

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Old 04-02-2007, 11:11 AM
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Thanx for the document
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:13 AM
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In fact I forgot to add that there is a NES document for stability criteria for ships and submarines. Pse google. It is publicly available.
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:10 PM
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The stability criteria vary from vessel type to vessel type, jurisdiction to jurisdiction, vessel operation to operation. The stability criteria will be specified in the applicable standard against which the vessel's compliance is measured. For commercial vessels, it is normally a standard specified by the flag authority. For recreational vessels it might be a standard such as ISO, or Yachting Federation standards. Sometimes there is no specified standard but you will still need to check stability to fulfil your duty of care obligations. In such cases, you might need to refer to ISO or commercial vessel standards, assess which criteria are the most applicable and apply them to your vessel.

As an example of stability criteria, have a look at the current Uniform Shipping Laws Code in Australia for commercial vessels that can be downloaded at: http://www.nmsc.gov.au/documents/USL...b-sectionC.pdf

I hope this helps.

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:16 AM
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Dear All,

i need to get both intact and damaged criteria file depends on mca rules ( same as Rina Classification of Charter Yachts) for Hydromax. Anyone can help me??
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:51 PM
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A new method for finding the center of gravity of a yacht. Takes into account the precise position of something as small as a bottle of whiskey being removed from a shelf, or a plastic bucket slowly sliding across the cabin on the end of a fishing hook.

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/sh...php?photo=1439
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:25 AM
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A new method for finding the center of gravity of a yacht. Takes into account the precise position of something as small as a bottle of whiskey being removed from a shelf, or a plastic bucket slowly sliding across the cabin on the end of a fishing hook.

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/sh...php?photo=1439

The definitive 'No Inclining Test, Please'

(question: photoshopped or real?)
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:51 AM
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The definitive 'No Inclining Test, Please'

(question: photoshopped or real?)
Might be a fake. Probably. I saw such a scene once though. A worried crew waited out the requisite six hours, their approx. 35 ft sailing yacht sat on a small rock, and the tide was 11 ft. It's like being ordered to stand with your pants down in a dunce cap for all the world to see. Everyone sailing by saying, 'There but for the grace of God go I!"

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Old 06-16-2007, 06:01 AM
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iso 12217-1 in hydromax

hi. i have been designing 9 meter non sailing boat. i have to pass iso 12217-1 criteries in hydromax. but i dont know some terms mean. for examole A n .
please help me. its very important for me.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:44 PM
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I'll try to get back to you on monday from the office, with the ISO 12217:1 in front of me. In the mean time please clarify your question: do you want to know what "A" and "n" are....?
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:58 PM
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If it helps at all the Stability criterion required for RIBs (or RHIBs in some countries) to be sold in the European Union area requires that the specified load must be fixed in the boat and then ALL the specified people ( passengers and crew) must ALL be able to walk to the edge of the deck without the boat heeling enough to ship any water.

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Old 06-18-2007, 01:31 AM
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i am explaining my problem..
i have been building between 6 and 9 meter zodiac rib boats.and i think i must use iso 12217-1 criteries. iif i use wrong criteries please inform me about it. and please tell me which criteries i must use.
well. if i have to use iso 12217-1 criteries i dont know how to use it.
i will order :
1) in ofseet load test heeling arm= A*cos^n(phi) what is A and n.
2) in rolling in beam test
Wind arm: a v^2 A (h - H) / (g disp.) cos^n(phi)
constant: a (0.5 rho_air Cd) = 0 kg/m^3
wind model Velocity
wind velocity: v = 0,000 kts
area centroid height: h = 0,000 m
total area: A = 0,000 m^2
additional area: A = 0,000 m^2
height of lateral resistance: H = 0,000 m
H = mean draught / 2 m
H = vert. centre of projected lat. u'water area m
H = waterline m
cosine power: n = 0
gust ratio 1
Area2 integrated to the lesser of
roll back angle from equilibrium (with heel arm) 0,0 deg
roll back to equilibrium (ignoring heel arm) deg
Area 1 upper integration range, to the lesser of:
spec. heel angle 0,0 deg
angle of first GZ peak deg
angle of max. GZ deg
angle of max. GZ above heel arm deg
first downflooding angle deg
angle of vanishing stability (with heel arm) deg
Angle for GZ(max) in GZ ratio, the lesser of:
spec. heel angle 0,0 deg
angle of first GZ peak deg
angle of max. GZ deg
first downflooding angle deg
Select required angle for angle of steady heel ratio: DeckEdgeImmersionAngle
Include GZ reduction: GZ' = GZ - B cos^m (phi)
B = 0,000 m
m = 1
Criteria:
Angle of steady heel shall be less than (<) 30,0 deg
Angle of steady heel / Deck edge immersion angle shall be less than (<) 80,000 %
Area1 / Area2 shall be greater than (>) 100,000 %
GZ(equilibrium) / GZ(max) shall be less than (<) 60,000 %
Area 1 shall be greater than (>) -1,#QO m.deg

how will i define height of lateral resistance.
roll back angle from equilibrium
spec heel angle ( it is written twice :S )
and others.


3) in resistance to wawes part. how will i define them:
heel angle at which required RM is constant =
required value of RM at this angle is=

4) in heel due to wind action how will i define terms . for insteance roll back angle from equilibrium etc.

theese informations very important for me. please inform me about it.
really very important. my msn : sultanfatihkar@hotmail.com
thank you very much.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:40 AM
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askefar,
for inflatables and RIBS you have to use ISO 6185-1, ISO 6185-2 and ISO 6185-3, not ISO 12217.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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i thank you so so so much guillermo. but my hydromax does not have theese criteries. can you give me a link??
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