ratio (L/B)

[PAR]

Granted Dina is bearing the load of an oppressive government's actions on this forum, which isn't very fair. I have some very informative, Israeli based links if they'd be interested.

[b1ck0]

Originally Posted by Lister

Sorry for you you don't get it.
Try harder.
Lister

Maybe if you try to understand what I wrote you will get it ... soon or later

[alan white]

Originally Posted by PAR

Generally, I'd agree with you Dan, but having visited the area, long ago, I can honestly say they are kind and nice, unless they suspect you; like, work for, are related too, or are a practicing Jew. Then their real nature shows up. Any people, hell bent on the utter destruction of another, can't possably expect the majority to take them particularly seriously. This is typical throughout the region, but especially prevalent in the fundamentalist ruled areas, such as Iran. They have access to reality, but elect to buy into the hate mongers diatribe, which is telling to say the least. The world is still flat to them and I for one, can't accept the notion that they should be considered in normal conversation, without adding their desire to eradicate the world, of Jews and infidels. Only Muslims are real people, pleeease . . .

Normally, I agree with most everything you say PAR, but simply being from a country in a geographal sense doesn't tell you anything about a person.
For all you know, he's a half black/half American Indian Catholic priest from Outer Mongolia who had to move to Iran to marry his Jewish wife.

[ancient kayaker]

Not our finest hour. I'm going to unsubscribe.

[PAR]

Originally Posted by alan white

. . .
For all you know, he's a half black/half American Indian Catholic priest from Outer Mongolia who had to move to Iran to marry his Jewish wife . . .

No one is naive enough to believe this.

I don't make this stand lightly, but have you talked to Arab and Persian nationals? It's unlikely the OP will return, but do yourself a favor and talk with first generation Arabs and Persians about their views. They are as normal as anyone else, right up until you mention a Jew, then their true mind set emerges. Ask what precautions the US military takes with it's Jewish personal over in this part of the world. It's unbelievable until you actually speak with them. You'd think you tossed a few hundred years in the fire.

Simply put, do you know why India and Pakistan were permitted to develop atomic weapon systems? Because it's believed they wouldn't use them arbitrarily against their neighbors, prominently Israel. Why do you think Iraq's reactor was bombed in 1981? Why do you think Iran's current attempts will be thwarted when the time comes? All the same reason, the first bomb they make, will be placed on a missile and sent to Tel Aviv. There's no question of this and it's the stated goal, of most of the Arab and Persian nations, to wipe Israel of the face of the earth. Now, I'm not Jewish, but I'm too familiar with this type of mind set. I've yet to met a single Arab or Persian that didn't have this middle ages mind set. I'm sure there are some, but I don't think they speak publicly about their views.

[Leo Lazauskas]

Originally Posted by PAR

Why do you think Iran's current attempts will be thwarted when the time comes? All the same reason, the first bomb they make, will be placed on a missile and sent to Tel Aviv.

Get a grip. No one (except you) is naive enough to believe this.
If they deployed one nuke, they would get dozens back in return.

[daiquiri]

Originally Posted by ancient kayaker

Not our finest hour. I'm going to unsubscribe.

I agree. Shitty thread, had nothing to do with L/B ratio or boating. Unsubscribed.

[daiquiri]

Oh, one more thing before I leave: Dina has activated the possibility to receive e-mails at his profile page. He will probably and understandably not get back here again, but if someone wants to help him privately, that could be a way.

[alan white]

Originally Posted by PAR

No one is naive enough to believe this.
I don't make this stand lightly, but have you talked to Arab and Persian nationals? It's unlikely...

It isn't a matter of whether I believe these (backwards) things do or don't occur in Iran. I'm perfectly willing to assume all kinds of atrocities are going on and even that they are a product of fundamental Islamic beliefs.
The question has to do with whether we can be accurate in judging who is and who is not responsible for the acts mentioned, and whether this forum is the place to judge such affairs in the first place.

My belief is that we can't accurately judge individuals simply on the basis of their geographical location in Iraq. In the interest in promoting better relations between our two peoples, we should welcome positive discourse with each other in order to establish that before anything else, we all have the ability to secretly disagree with our own governments.
Do many Iranians fear reprisal enough to shut up about their true beliefs? I would guess that do. I know that if I were Iranian, given the way I think, I'd completely disagree with my government. I would therefore feel awkward (and angry) when not only was I being told my beliefs were faulty, I would also avoid embarrassing my government for fear of reprisal (loss of my keyboarding fingers,etc.).

[redreuben]

PAR, get your head out of the sand, the Israelis murder hundreds of woman and children, their fascism is appalling and so is the wests approval.
They are the Nazis of the Middle east and we tolerate their monstrous behaviour for power in the region i.e. OIL.
it's sickening.
The radicalisation of islam is simply the response to their oppression.
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/20...rlsignbomb.jpg

[PAR]

Originally Posted by redreuben

PAR, get your head out of the sand, the Israelis murder hundreds of woman and children, their fascism is appalling and so is the wests approval.
They are the Nazis of the Middle east and we tolerate their monstrous behaviour for power in the region i.e. OIL.
it's sickening.
The radicalisation of islam is simply the response to their oppression.
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/20...rlsignbomb.jpg

One of the most clueless set of remarks I've ever seen.

[rasorinc]

The ISRAELIS have never started a war anywhere, but they have an admiral record in ending them.

[Boat Design Net Moderator]

It doesn't seem likely at this point that there will be much more discussion of L/B ratio in this thread (or stability since it is posted in the stability forum or boat design even), and so it's probably best to draw this particular thread to a close.

I think Daiquiri said it well:

Originally Posted by daiquiri

Dina,

the question you have asked is difficult to answer in a single post because it is extremely broad. Any design ratio will have an impact on each one of these ship characteristics:
- powering
- stability
- seakeeping
- maneuverabilty
- structural strength
- trailerabilty (in case of pleasure boats)
If you need to know how L/B affects all of them, a reply would need a space of an entire book chapter.

But if you put your question into a narrower context, you'll make life easier for those who are willing to reply. For example:
- what type of ship are you considering?
- which type of hull?
- what speed range?
- what size and Length/Displacement ratio?
Once these are known, it becomes easier to answer your question.

Cheers

If someone else comes upon this thread by keyword search, etc. it would be best to start a new unencumbered and more specific thread. Please provide as much background as possible (hulls/boat type being looked at, Statement of Requirements to be met, etc.) to help focus the question.