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Old 10-28-2009, 03:47 AM
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Firstly, that seems a very short roll period, have you done it correctly?

Secondly, the nomogram does not go down to the small beam that you have for your boat, 2.5m. So you can't use this!
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:56 AM
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It is quite a short roll period. I believe I have done it correctly. An average 12.65s for 5 oscillations -> 2.53s for each oscillation.

Meanwhile I have gone through this:

http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/js...%20779_ocr.pdf

Which calculates the time for 1 oscillation a bit differently...

What do you think?

Thanks again
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:47 PM
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A 2.53 sec rolling period for a 2.5 m beamed boat looks quite right to me. That makes "f" to be close to a value of 1, which is precisely the top figure the spanish and french administrations use for small fishing vessels. The rolling period in seconds being more or less equal to the beam in meters is also adequate for a sailing boat.

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Old 05-30-2010, 01:50 AM
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I sailed on the Coolidge one summer fishing for albacore tuna. She was 62 feet long, I think. The wheelhouse was forward which was a little unusual for these boats. She rolled in swells but once one got used to the motion she never varied, rolled the same in twenty foot waves. She made 13 knots on a single Allis Chalmers truck engine. A sleek seaworthy boat that carried a lot of fish. Very heavy construction.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:13 PM
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How about all the troller out here on the west coast? Most here seem to be about 37-40 with a 12ft beam and a 6ft draft. I see all the talk about how tough they are but when I ask a guy if he would take it to hawaii he thought it would be a bad idea. I see them fish in some pretty nasty stuff. I know breuhler based his diesel duck off these designs but what do you guys think.
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:06 PM
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Girvin,

With luck and a little preparation almost anything can be "taken to Hawaii'. It really depends on the individual boat, it's design, construction, and maintenance. But more depends on you and your skill set, people sail to Hawaii in Columbia 26's, no problem......coming back may be less fun.....

But remember you are risking your life, just as you do when you cross the street.....so figure the odds and stack them a bit in your favor....you can always find "a guy" who thinks it's a bad idea to get out bed in the morning......
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:54 PM
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Thanks Tad, I am still in the process of just trying to soak up as much info from you guys as I can. Would you be interested in any consultation work on helping me pic a good troller for my needs? That is if my sailboat ever sells.
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:10 AM
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does anyone know website address of fingsing Vessel research

dear All,

I'm new member here. I m interested in naval architecture especially Fishing vessel and now I m final semester in my college and this september will final assignment. I want to know literature about purse seiner stability or tuna long liner when encircle or hauling. any body who knows about it, please help me.
I also want to make connection with the researcher in fishing vessel. If you have a link, give me please...

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Old 07-29-2010, 01:35 AM
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I am very much pleased to read the research paper attched by Guillermo, great paper and great thread here....thanks a lot,
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:43 AM
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thanks bro..its sound nice
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:22 PM
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I'm presently in London where I'll attend tomorrow a Forum on the safety of small fishing vessels (under 15 m Loa) organized by the RINA. I will give a short presentation there about stability issues learnt through the Spanish experience. I attach the Forum agenda.

And later in the evening I will meet our fellowmember Pericles for supper....

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Old 07-23-2011, 03:35 PM
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Well, back home and to my good old MARIE, I have to say the RINA's Forum on the safety of small FVs was most interesting. RINA will post soon information on the forum and the diverse presentations and debates there at their web pages. So I will not extend myself on this.

But I do not want to lose the oportunity to heartly thanks these Boatdesign forums' fellowmember Pericles because of the most warm welcome and kind invitation for dinner with his charming family, as well as for all of the help he provided to me by picking me up with his car and driving me well in excess of 100 km to the Stansted airport.

I attach a photo of me with Perry and his nice son Ashley, at The Ferry Restaurant, Cookham.

Thanks a lot Perry!
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