Two engineers in search for project

[cjs]

We are two graduate students at the Royal Institute of Technology, department of Naval Architecture and looking for an internship or a company to do a masters thesis for. Our academic backgrounds lie in Engineering Physics and Industrial Design, and due to a great interest in sailing we both ended up as graduate students within Naval Architecture. Does anyone have any ides or interesting problems in need of help?

We have a vast yachting experience ranging from Windsurfing, Formula 18 catamaran and 49-er skiff up to 130 ft ketch and the Swedish Merchant fleet.

Beside general engineering and Naval architecture skills, we both have good knowledge in finite element analysis, CAD and computational fluid dynamics.

Grateful for any help and for further information or questions don’t hesitate to give us a call or an e-mail.

Marcus Thor – marcusth@kth.se +46-739244493
Carl-Johan Söder – cjsoder@kth.se +46-707338279

[cjs]

We are two graduate students at the Royal Institute of Technology, department of Naval Architecture and looking for an internship or a company to do a masters thesis for. Our academic backgrounds lie in Engineering Physics and Industrial Design, and due to a great interest in sailing we both ended up as graduate students within Naval Architecture. Does anyone have any ides or interesting problems in need of help?

We have a vast yachting experience ranging from Windsurfing, Formula 18 catamaran and 49-er skiff up to 130 ft ketch and the Swedish Merchant fleet.

Beside general engineering and Naval architecture skills, we both have good knowledge in finite element analysis, CAD and computational fluid dynamics.

Grateful for any help and for further information or questions don’t hesitate to give us a call or an e-mail.

Marcus Thor – marcusth@kth.se +46-739244493
Carl-Johan Söder – cjsoder@kth.se +46-707338279

[cjs]

We are two graduate students at the Royal Institute of Technology, department of Naval Architecture and looking for an internship or a company to do a masters thesis for. Our academic backgrounds lie in Engineering Physics and Industrial Design, and due to a great interest in sailing we both ended up as graduate students within Naval Architecture. Does anyone have any ides or interesting problems in need of help?

We have a vast yachting experience ranging from Windsurfing, Formula 18 catamaran and 49-er skiff up to 130 ft ketch and the Swedish Merchant fleet.

Beside general engineering and Naval architecture skills, we both have good knowledge in finite element analysis, CAD and computational fluid dynamics.

Grateful for any help and for further information or questions don’t hesitate to give us a call or an e-mail.

Marcus Thor – marcusth@kth.se +46-739244493
Carl-Johan Söder – cjsoder@kth.se +46-707338279

[cjs]

We are two graduate students at the Royal Institute of Technology, department of Naval Architecture and looking for an internship or a company to do a masters thesis for. Our academic backgrounds lie in Engineering Physics and Industrial Design, and due to a great interest in sailing we both ended up as graduate students within Naval Architecture. Does anyone have any ides or interesting problems in need of help?

We have a vast yachting experience ranging from Windsurfing, Formula 18 catamaran and 49-er skiff up to 130 ft ketch and the Swedish Merchant fleet.

Beside general engineering and Naval architecture skills, we both have good knowledge in finite element analysis, CAD and computational fluid dynamics.

Grateful for any help and for further information or questions don’t hesitate to give us a call or an e-mail.

Marcus Thor – marcusth@kth.se +46-739244493
Carl-Johan Söder – cjsoder@kth.se +46-707338279

[kjell]

I would recommend you to find out a way to convert sail power into Horsepower.

There was a thread on the forum someplace just last week where a guy had asked about good problems for him to solve as part of a thesis-I think. He got responses from many of the top people on this forum including Eric Sponberg. I've looked but can't find it-but it's in Boat Design, Open Discussion or somewhere-worth spending the time searching. If you can't find it you might write to the forum Administrator for help.
The only difference between you guys and the other guy was/is that it seems you might be looking for a project you might be paid(?) for while he was looking for ideas....
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From an idea standpoint: one of the biggest revolutions to ever hit sailing is the application of a bi-foil hydrofoil system, like on a Moth, to other boats. So far it has not been done on a larger selfrighting keelboat-but it will be. You might consider investigating whether or not a 60' monofoiler could achieve the potential of being the fastest 60 footer-as fast as ORMA tris or faster-or not.
You could look at the technology from the standpoint of producing such a high speed vessel that is seaworthy and SELFRIGHTING.
You could look at applying the technology to "sportboats" from 20-30'- again with the emphasis on seaworthiness, speed and selfrighting.
You could look to the Moth foiler phenomenon and see what you could come up with that would be a "Peoples Foiler"-easy to sail, fast, foils in very light air and relatively inexpensive.
This is one of the most exciting areas of design and development in sailing and is wide open for innovative thinking and concrete solutions...
60'+ or - 20' Ocean Racing Monofoiler Design Discussion - Boat Design Forums
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Sportboats: Design for Flight - Boat Design Forums
Address:Sportboats: Design for Flight
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Peoples Foiler :aeroSKIFF™ / M4 - Boat Design Forums
Address:Peoples Foiler :aeroSKIFF™ / M4
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Foiler Design - Boat Design Forums
Address:Foiler Design

[Chris Ostlind]

Hey Marcus... Johan,

Well, I guess you'll have to put your thinking caps on and also apply more than a little intuitive process here to get a good project underway.

The whole, "foiling is the future", thing might look to be a good project to get your foot in the door of a rapid fire, high-tech shop where you could get in volved with other techno projects in the here and now. Not a bad idea for a couple of enterprising young guys who have a career map in front of them.

While that sort of concept has its merits, if I were in your shoes and wanted to be regarded as full-tilt, open book, career material, I'd be into the process of developing a program in which alternative energy systems and bio-based products could be incorporated into existing design/build paradigms.

Petroleum resources are dwindling on a world wide scale. Soon, the designers of the future that will have to confront that issue in big, bold, capital latters. You'd be positioning yourselves for a life long career in a state of the art commercial product development category that is only going to grow larger the longer you live. Make a name for yourelves now and you'll have the design shops crashing your doors for employment potential.

Foil supported boats have a finite lifespan as they exist at the front edge of today's techno bubble. They make for fast boats with limited commercial potential. The idea that the foiling technolgy of today will survive for more than the next 8-10 years is iffy, at best, when you consider the typical high tech lifespan of any product in this global society. (Is an 8 yr. old computer worth anything at all in today's world? No, well, they were the foilborne equivalent in the computer world of yesterday)

I say reach out over the horizon, reach for a reality that is going to effect all of boating and make a mark for yourselves as young men with vision. Look at drive systems, energy resources and storage systems, substitution techniques for petro-chemically based adhesive potentials, structural methodology to take advantage of these new adhesives, bio-based products to substitute for existing foams, GRP and petroleum based structural and finishing products and how to integrate them into the boatbuilding process.

That should get your head whirling for more than a few days worth of Googling.

While you are at it in this pursuit, make sure to include your absolute, rock solid understanding of CAD systems, CNC tooling operations and the full understanding of how to get a boat from the screen to the water... on time and within budget.

We're going to very nearly run out of oil during your productive lifespans as designers. What supplies that will be available to you in that regard will become frighteningly expensive and may be the single largest reason that a project can not go forward under existing build regimes. This will be especially so for consumer style products in the boating marketplace.

Make a move for the profession as it will exist tomorrow and not today.

I wish I had an internship position to offer you guys in this regard, but alas, I'm just a small, design/build shop staying busy cranking out my own design work in an effort to sell plans to potential builders. Please write if I can be of any further help in the matter, I know of more than a few university level research programs where work is proceeding as described above. You may be able to tie their work together with an established boat production firm.

Chris Ostlind

[Verytricky]

I think it is rude ( and regarded as so by much of the online world ) to hijack a forum such as this and post adverts all over it.

I honestly hope that you have annoyed anyone who would consider you, to the extent that they do not consider you anymore.

Besides - two graduate students! I think I would get better real world advice and assistance from the members on this forum.


I hope some moderator removed your SPAM. And I hope for you a long period of unemployment. During this time you can read up on netequete.

[gonzo]

You should move this post to the marketplace area.

[gonzo]

You guys are multiple posting in many threads. It is rude and out of place. Post it in the marketplace threads where it belongs.

[Jeff]

(duplicate threads merged)

[RHough]

Originally Posted by Doug Lord

From an idea standpoint: one of the biggest revolutions to ever hit sailing is the application of a bi-foil hydrofoil system, like on a Moth, to other boats. So far it has not been done on a larger selfrighting keelboat-but it will be. You might consider investigating whether or not a 60' monofoiler could achieve the potential of being the fastest 60 footer-as fast as ORMA tris or faster-or not.
You could look at the technology from the standpoint of producing such a high speed vessel that is seaworthy and SELFRIGHTING.
You could look at applying the technology to "sportboats" from 20-30'- again with the emphasis on seaworthiness, speed and selfrighting.
You could look to the Moth foiler phenomenon and see what you could come up with that would be a "Peoples Foiler"-easy to sail, fast, foils in very light air and relatively inexpensive.
This is one of the most exciting areas of design and development in sailing and is wide open for innovative thinking and concrete solutions...
60'+ or - 20' Ocean Racing Monofoiler Design Discussion - Boat Design Forums
Address:60'+ or - 20' Ocean Racing Monofoiler Design Discussion
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Sportboats: Design for Flight - Boat Design Forums
Address:Sportboats: Design for Flight
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Peoples Foiler :aeroSKIFF™ / M4 - Boat Design Forums
Address:Peoples Foiler :aeroSKIFF™ / M4
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Foiler Design - Boat Design Forums
Address:Foiler Design

Here you go Doug, your chance to get someone to design one of your fantasies for you. Maybe they can succeed where you have not been able to? All it takes is some cash.

[brian eiland]

Originally Posted by cjs

We are two graduate students at the Royal Institute of Technology, department of Naval Architecture and looking for an internship or a company to do a masters thesis for. Our academic backgrounds lie in Engineering Physics and Industrial Design, and due to a great interest in sailing we both ended up as graduate students within Naval Architecture. Does anyone have any ides or interesting problems in need of help?

We have a vast yachting experience ranging from Windsurfing, Formula 18 catamaran and 49-er skiff up to 130 ft ketch and the Swedish Merchant fleet.

Beside general engineering and Naval architecture skills, we both have good knowledge in finite element analysis, CAD and computational fluid dynamics.

Grateful for any help and for further information or questions don’t hesitate to give us a call or an e-mail.

Marcus Thor – marcusth@kth.se +46-739244493
Carl-Johan Söder – cjsoder@kth.se +46-707338279

I think I sent you fellows a private message just before I went off to Thailand for the month of Jan. Did you receive one? I don't believe I ever received an answer?

[Raggi_Thor]

Simple exercise for a master thesis:
Design the cheapest and fastest F16 cat :-)