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Old 06-17-2007, 08:59 PM
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Trans Pacific work - like say even a movable water ballasted MacGregor?
In case I'm looking to buy a MacG for the singlehanded transpac, what are the stability numbers for the MacG with water ballast and without water ballast? Perhaps I'm wrong but I think a capsize measurement for water systems include a number when the "moveable ballast" is in the worst position.

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Old 06-17-2007, 09:06 PM
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I think the best thing would be for Frank to enter Swiftsure with a full
crew on his boat one of the years it blows gale force. Once the engine
drowns from being pooped, and the mast gets ripped of from the pressure
of the fully furled headsail alone, maybe, just maybe he would get a clue
what foul weather is, and how well every boat he disparages does in
foul weather.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:27 AM
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I think the best thing would be for Frank to enter Swiftsure with a full
crew on his boat one of the years it blows gale force. Once the engine
drowns from being pooped, and the mast gets ripped of from the pressure
of the fully furled headsail alone, maybe, just maybe he would get a clue
what foul weather is, and how well every boat he disparages does in
foul weather.
Now now Mark. These water ballasted MacGregors were made for heavy weather racing according to the manufacturer. Anyway see what my rival Tripp Gal is up to. Van Isle 360 - I am very impressed. http://www.vanisle360.com/competitors/

The west side of the island was just treated to a rough wave. It apparently washed a couple of hikers into a cave. The largest waves in the world are recorded on the west side of Vancouver Island. Recognize that I rounded Van Isle's Cape Scott, several years ago after three days of gales. I have dealt with it in my boat. So have other MacGregor owners. Something about hand laid fiberglass with up to 17 layers in stress areas appeals. How are TP52s made? sandwich construction. Nothing wrong with that - assuming the boat has positive flotation - oh sorry. Not possible with a TP52. Sinkers every one.

He He. The TP52s are having a fine Mediterranean race. I love that evil eye photo. If you love the boat you own you love all boats. God speed Tripp Gal.

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Old 06-19-2007, 12:01 PM
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Recognize that I rounded Van Isle's Cape Scott, several years ago after three days of gales. I have dealt with it in my boat.
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If you really want to impress, try rounding Cape Scott during the gales, not waiting in a cove until they have blown past.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:40 PM
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I didn't say the M26 would be destroyed in waves, I said Wind.
Real wind. Actually, swells & waves are not the same. True
waves would have been much more harrowing.

I have doubts about that floatation on the M26 once you load it
and add a huge motor.

But if you think it'll take it, and the factory says it's made for it,
go ahead and prove us all wrong. But take a liferaft and EPIRB
along just in case.

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Old 06-22-2007, 03:53 PM
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Now now Mark. These water ballasted MacGregors were made for heavy weather racing according to the manufacturer. Anyway see what my rival Tripp Gal is up to. Van Isle 360 - I am very impressed. http://www.vanisle360.com/competitors/

The west side of the island was just treated to a rough wave. It apparently washed a couple of hikers into a cave. The largest waves in the world are recorded on the west side of Vancouver Island. Recognize that I rounded Van Isle's Cape Scott, several years ago after three days of gales. I have dealt with it in my boat. So have other MacGregor owners. Something about hand laid fiberglass with up to 17 layers in stress areas appeals. How are TP52s made? sandwich construction. Nothing wrong with that - assuming the boat has positive flotation - oh sorry. Not possible with a TP52. Sinkers every one.

He He. The TP52s are having a fine Mediterranean race. I love that evil eye photo. If you love the boat you own you love all boats. God speed Tripp Gal.

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I have rounded Cape Scott, three times. Once in a gale and I do not think that a Mac 26 would have been able to handle the conditions. I was in a 30 ft sloop and was down to reefed blade only going to weather and still overpowered. The waves were reported by the CG as 16 ft.

Another time I rounded after two days of gales and it was flat calm and smooth.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:35 AM
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When you see a shot like this it suddenly becomes clear why Frank takes such exception to these "yachts".
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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When you see a shot like this it suddenly becomes clear why Frank takes such exception to these "yachts".
Why... because you actually have to have friends to sail it?
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:00 AM
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OMG!!! The TP52 class has finally seen the light! Is that keel canted??? Frank! You're a genius! I'm buying a ticket to SEATAC as soon as I push the submit button and I'll have your favorite brew in hand when I get there.
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Canted keel? I thought the boat was just heeled really far.....
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:44 PM
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This " Frank "

I have just joined this forum , and I cannot believe what I have read on this thread , really.

A lot of people here are quite experienced yachties , so , my question to you
is , Why do you actually feed the rantings of this delusional , strange person ?

Is this somehow "sport" or entertainment or do you all seriously believe that FRANK deserves the attention ?
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:40 PM
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I have just joined this forum , and I cannot believe what I have read on this thread , really.

A lot of people here are quite experienced yachties , so , my question to you
is , Why do you actually feed the rantings of this delusional , strange person ?

Is this somehow "sport" or entertainment or do you all seriously believe that FRANK deserves the attention ?
This is the best free entertainment you can get free on the Internet....
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:28 PM
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This is the best free entertainment you can get free on the Internet....
Without going blind.
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Canted keel? I thought the boat was just heeled really far.....
Say it ain't so. No booze for youse Frank. Keep at it though, you'll make the breakthrough one day.
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