TP52s

[longliner45]

wow I like this tread!!!!!

[aitchem]

Is there a way of marking this thread read instead of having to hit "last" and "back".?
I don't want the ***** here thinking I am reading this crap by creating another "hit" on the thread.!

[frankofile]

Originally Posted by mighetto

The mac26x part in the TP52 conspiracy was significant on two levels. First, the water ballasted race trainers at 5000 active hulls competed directly with the notion of a TP26 race trainer, second they were proof that the LPS requirement of 128 in the TP53 box rules was hogwash.

******** Frank. You've made this and similar claims many times before - the MacCrap26 is somehow a big influence in sailboat racing, most great racers began on the MacCrap26, etc. Where are the numbers? Not one or two lucky wins, one of which was in a cruising class that allowed use of a motor as I recall, and not 5000 hulls out there collecting barnacles. Where are all the MacCrap26s racing, and who are the great sailors who came up through the MacCrap26 ranks? You claim to offer proof when asked so let's see it. (ha! I'm not holding my breath...)

You're a troll Frank. How do you back up your claim that Farr Intl went bankrupt? Nothing, just political nonsense. How do you back up your claim that US Sailing doesn't support the TP52 class? Nothing, just more political nonsense. Your supposed contributions to sailing? Dude, you are a pathetic buffoon. People laugh at you in spite of themselves. That is your sole contribution.

Originally Posted by mighetto

Frank L. Mighetto
Be My Valintine

Whatever the hell a Valintine is, I sincerely doubt that anyone will ever voluntarily agree to be yours.

[frankofile]

Originally Posted by mighetto

There is nothing as exhilerating as having someone aim at you and miss. You are aware that Sudie Parker's husband Little Man Hansen, contacted the state of washington and washington state patrol to have my internet access and job revoked are you not? Fellow, no one has done as much for this sport.

How is having to explain your unprofessional conduct to your employer a contribution to sailing?

Originally Posted by mighetto

BTW the Tripp 47 has burdened the Toliva Shoal race already. The S2 7.9 will not be racing owing to Sudie Parker's selection of a captain. One way to win is to take talent that would otherwize be competing against you.

You mean someone who owns an S2 7.9 is racing on someone else's Tripp 47??? People sail on each other's boats all the time. Hardly a conspiracy.

Originally Posted by mighetto

This is especially effective if it also takes out a movable and retractable foil vessel that has a chance of bettering your lubberly sailed vessel. This is the best recent example of the win-at-any-cost culture of corruption I continue to work against.

Haven't you been told before that the S2 7.9 keel retracts for trailering, not for racing? But there I go again, expecting you to pay attention and actually learn something.

[Jim Hauser]

It is a conspiracy when nobody invites you out to sail with them all the while other club members sail with each other. Migghie had a chance to sail on the Tripp, she also had arranged a beer can race on the TP52, and a santa cruz 70 for frank. He's scared shitless of going faster than 4 knots or heeling more than 5 degrees.

Will we see Frankie at Toliva? I doubt it. His wife doesn't like him out playing past dinner time.

[stevel]

That picture is posted and discussed in this thread a few months ago. It is Frank getting in the way of a race, or as he likes to say, "being hunted".

[sorenfdk]

Originally Posted by mighetto

Good lord, man, I have rocked the Status Quo

Do You really think so?

Originally Posted by mighetto

You may also be aware of the now famous rule 69 report I prepared for PHRF Northwest

No - should I be? Maybe someone in the Northwest cares (although I doubt it!), but why should the rest of the world?

Originally Posted by mighetto

Certainly you know of the unhackable www.eskimo.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm

Yes I do, and I think it's a good thing if it really is unhackable (although I doubt that too!), because it's so entertaining.

Originally Posted by mighetto

You may not be aware of my role in extending rule 69 and proposed laws on Internet Bullying.

No, I'm not, and I can't see what proposed laws on internet bullying has got to do with sailing.

Originally Posted by mighetto

BTW the Tripp 47 has burdened the Toliva Shoal race already. The S2 7.9 will not be racing owing to Sudie Parker's selection of a captain. One way to win is to take talent that would otherwize be competing against you.

Did she put a gun to his head or did he go voluntarily?

Originally Posted by mighetto

...a movable and retractable foil vessel...

If only You knew what You were talking about...

Originally Posted by mighetto

As Secretary of South Sound Sailing Society, I got the job done.

If You were so fantastic, why aren't You secretary any more?


And, finally:

Originally Posted by mighetto

ask for evidence and so it will be given

You still owe us evidence concerning the bankruptcy of Farr International.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by zeevonk

After my previous somewhat careless post i did some research on the (name shall not be mentioned) subject.

The best foundings of my conclusion (which i shall not mention) were found here:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums...topic=8070&hl=

Some quotes:

"See! As you delete posts you actually start to become smarter..."
"I have purged myself. It truly is a great feeling."
"Hilarious hitting the refresh and watching the posts go down."



This thread is mostly about deleting and the problems involved.
Deleting this piece of internet history would be a shame. I propose to found a site where all posts are collected, and new post redirected to. The non sailing internet community deserves a chance to be part of this.

Hey, our faith precludes the making of such images.

The Mac26x comes with a Coleman ice chest and the idea is that you cart that back and forth from boat to home. Heck that's work. If its on the boat it stays there. I am not carting it back - no way. I don't want it to go bad so hence the thermal. If you remove the liner for the ice chest storage compartment, the fit is near perfect on the Mac26x. Many Mac26x owners remove the ice chest from its designed place under the aft dinette seat and use this for storage. The ice chest storage compartment is the only finished compartment on the vessel and the ice chest itself can be possitioned as they are on the Mac26m or better yet under the table. Mac26x pocket cruisers originally were fitted out with Coleman ice chests by the factory. Many boaters do not know that Coleman (the outdoor equipment firm) purchased Hobie Cat Company (at the time a public company) in the 1970s with Hobie Alter becoming a consultant to Coleman. Since the only finished storage compartment on an X houses the ice chest, Coleman was honored by - if not connected to - MacGregor Yachts, prior to the introduction of the M (which is not fitted out with a chest by the factory). Perhaps today's camping image for Coleman is not in keeping with the M's big boat interior which often includes a TV/DVD system. In anycase the Mac26x is tied to the Hobie Cat beach boats through its ice chest and also through Hobie Cat athletes. Remember that MacGregor produced cruising cats for many years. Many owners (not me) beach Mac26x cruisers like a catamaran. I have listened to many versions of a story involving Hobie Cat athletes sailing a Mac26x at 17 MPH in Mexican or San Franciscan waters and one of these days I will bump into a first hand witness, assuming the story is true. The story usually involves a fleet of Hobie Cats with a Mac26x serving as mother ship. The Cats take off and those left on the mother ship take chase and achieve 17MPH under sail. Most assume the athletes on the mother ship hiked out and sailed unballasted. However, having achieved 12 and 13 MPH on several occasions now fully ballasted - with crew sitting inside the life lines - I doubt the X was unballasted or rigged so that hiking out could be supported. One captain has reported to Sailnet of reaching 17 MPH by starting off fully ballasted and dropping the ballast after stabilizing the boat on a downwind point of sail. Even if the Hobie-cat athelete-crewed Mac26x story is fable, pocket rocket is a valid descriptor for the vessel. Bottom line - on an X there should be some kind of Coleman equipment aboard just for tradition.

Is the image commercially available. I would like copies.

Frank L. Mighetto
glad to see things lighten up.
SSSS meeting tonight
All welcome

Voyages to Windward
West Side of Vancouver Island

[frankofile]

Originally Posted by mighetto

glad to see things lighten up.

Why? So you don't have to provide "evidence" for any of the questions you were asked yesterday? What a horse's ass you are.

[stevel]

Hey! Keep It Civil. Don't Start Insulting Horses Here.

[frankofile]

Got a little carried away. My apologies to horses and horse lovers.

[Skippy]

stevel: Hey! Keep It Civil. Don't Start Insulting Horses Here.
He's only insulting the ass.

[bhnautika]

Ok I’ve read and read but nobody has ask or posed the thought for discussion
1 Are movable/removable ballasted boats inherently unseaworthy?
2 The shifting of blame from operator error to design error /flaw by (for what ever purpose) third parties. This should be up for serious discussion. As this has an effect on all designers and builders

[Shife]

Originally Posted by bhnautika

Ok I’ve read and read but nobody has ask or posed the thought for discussion
1 Are movable/removable ballasted boats inherently unseaworthy?
2 The shifting of blame from operator error to design error /flaw by (for what ever purpose) third parties. This should be up for serious discussion. As this has an effect on all designers and builders

You're not going to find any serious discussion in this thread. Just fantasy and make-believe, countered with logic and fact, that goes completely ignored.

[bhnautika]

Yeah but if you keeping driving into the mud your going to get bogged. May be its time to get out and push in the right direction.