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Old 11-14-2007, 01:18 PM
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Well, I mentioned it, because it seemed as if you were trying to stifle the discussion by mentioning you held a patent. As if you were saying "don't touch this - I own the rights". But if you didn't I apologise.

I still like the idea – and I think it would look cool on a high-peaked gaffer.
No intention to stifle discussion on a sailing development I worked very hard on which is still relevant today. A patent is simply a means of laying out publically a description of an invention or process in exchange for a period of exclusivity (which maybe be transferred via licensing, etc.) Seems you choose to immediately attack it's validity rather than continue the discussion. That is why I asked. In any case, anyone out there is free to use the development as they wish. If they need help building one, they have at least one source to look at and know who to contact.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:01 PM
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Hmm, if I am not mistaken, a patent is in my book something you take out to protect your investment. Not something you do in order to share the stuff.

I didn't decide to "attack" out of the blue. Your headline states which patent it is, for one, and the first sentence reads:

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We patented this system in 1987.
That to me is an indicator, not of willingless to share, but rather a defense of the mentioned exclusivity. I can see that you _meant_ something else, but reacting to what you actually wrote in that form you wrote it, really cannot be called an attack. But whatever floats your boat.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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Hmm, if I am not mistaken, a patent is in my book something you take out to protect your investment. Not something you do in order to share the stuff.
As I understand it, the original intent of the patent system was to prevent ideas from being lost by encouraging people to publish them. Hence the deal is that you get a limited period of exclusivity in return for public discolsure.

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Old 11-14-2007, 09:27 PM
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Hmm, if I am not mistaken, a patent is in my book something you take out to protect your investment. Not something you do in order to share the stuff.

I didn't decide to "attack" out of the blue. Your headline states which patent it is, for one, and the first sentence reads:

That to me is an indicator, not of willingless to share, but rather a defense of the mentioned exclusivity. I can see that you _meant_ something else, but reacting to what you actually wrote in that form you wrote it, really cannot be called an attack. But whatever floats your boat.
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I wrote: "We patented this system in 1987." Simple fact. Then I explained what it was. Never mentioned exclusivity or protecting anything.
Your first reply was: "I doubt that patent will hold water over here."
That was why I asked you the reason for this. In any case, glad you like the idea. Time to move on. Now, anyone interested in building one? How about on this boat?
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:26 AM
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This is not exactly what i was trying to describe, but also very interesting.
In this world of every crazy idea finding an application, how come this has never been tried?
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:27 AM
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Okay, Hansen – I guess we both overreacted. I can agree to that. Truce?
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Yes, Ljungstrom rig is very close. But they do not seem to deploy booms.
What i had in mind is really a very conventional setup with the exception that it is an open and shut case!!!
I am deeply concerned about this idea.

Should a crewperson be caught between the two sides of the sail at the bottom mark it might be necessary to wait until the top mark to release them.

Or potentially it might be a possibility that a crewmember could be misplaced.

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Geez, has anyone seen Steve?

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