Seeking advice re: 27 - 33 foot offshore capabale sloops

[easternjoe]

Seeking advice on offshore capable sloops. Likely a heavier boat with reasonable draft - yet also capable of some speed. Designs that have an established record of Atlantic crossings would be of interest. Absolute price ceiling of US $50,000 probably limits me to lengths in the high 20's - low 30's.

Looking forward to your suggestions re: suitable models.

Thanks

[SeaDrive]

You might find Tom McNaughton's comments on his Penny design interesting: http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/disc5_toc.htm

Among production and semi-production boats, I would look at boats by Pacific Seacraft, Bristol Channel Cutters, Morris, etc. Also the Vancouver 27, if you can find one. One of the classic designs is the Laurent Giles Virtue.

[Seafarer24]

Southern Cross 31 or 35. They're cutters, not sloops, but they can go around the world just fine. I'm debating an abandoned mast-less SC31 nearby for my next boat....

[mattotoole]

Originally Posted by SeaDrive

You might find Tom McNaughton's comments on his Penny design interesting: http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/disc5_toc.htm

Among production and semi-production boats, I would look at boats by Pacific Seacraft, Bristol Channel Cutters, Morris, etc. Also the Vancouver 27, if you can find one. One of the classic designs is the Laurent Giles Virtue.

Those are all great boats, but you'll never get a Morris, BCC, or Pacific Seacraft for under $50k. $80k maybe... although right now there's a Mariah listed for $50k in San Diego.

Awhile back I came across this steel Lyle Hess design: http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/1813 I have no idea if it's still for sale, or anything else about it. For some reason I thought it was interesting.

With luck you might find an eighties Cal 39, a seaworthy boat with lots of storage. I've seen a bunch of O'Day 37s listed at under $40k.

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[yokebutt]

Hobie 33, or buy our all-carbon 31 footer that's littering the shop, some assembly required.

Yoke.

[mackid068]

$80k is much more reasonable. What about looking at Seaward Yachts (www.seawardyachts.com)?

[mackid068]

Or a Nauticat 321 pilothouse? It has a nice, big keel. But maybe custom is the best for you. Or, Etap Yachts. Anyway, key features are, personally, relatively long keel, solid construction.

[yokebutt]

Or, if you want something larger, and can live with the extra weight, look into the J/35 or Express 37.

Yoke.

[SeaDrive]

Originally Posted by mackid068

Or a Nauticat 321 pilothouse? It has a nice, big keel.

There one of these (or a near sister) for sale up the street. $250,000.

Rawson 30? Sea Sprinte 30? Baba 30? Cape Dory? Great Dane?

It's really mostly a matter of what is for sale in your area.

[mackid068]

Or we can take mighetto's advice and get a Mac 26

[olivettis]

RS280 http://www.plastolitas.lt/jachtos.html

[chandler]

If you don't mind wood, look in the "WoodenBoat" magazines classifieds. Often times there are some amazing deals.

[mattotoole]

Originally Posted by chandler

If you don't mind wood, look in the "WoodenBoat" magazines classifieds. Often times there are some amazing deals.

Don't ignore eBay either. Of course there's plenty of garbage (ie, FL hurricane leftovers), but there are plenty of good deals too. I see a lot of good deals in southern CA. Because slip rates are so high, boats get sold really cheap.

[mackid068]

What are the slip rates? $20/foot is HIGH, but how high are you talking?

[MarioCoccon]

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