Peoples Foiler :aeroSKIFF™ / M4

The list grows ; see #11 below:

Originally Posted by Doug Lord

Here's a list of all the boats(projects) under 20' that I know have foiled or that may foil in the future:
1) M4- the unquestioned leader as of tonight.
2) Bladerider-may or may not be a Peoples Foiler
with pods I'd say yes; with pods and the big main they talk about I'd say definitely.Big news: Rohan Veal has signed full time with KA Sail -builder of the Bladerider and they are bringing a boat to the Annapolis Sailboat show Oct. 6-8th 2006. Shows a substantial committment to promoting the Bladerider.
3) RS 600- has foiled-no other info
4) I14's- several have flown but full flying foil systems are illegal so a spin-off might qualify.
5) 49er- somebody somewhere has a set of Fastacraft foils specifically for this boat but
that's all I know.
6) Aussie 18 reported by Baronvonwhatever appeared to have surface piercing foils and would be an unlikely candidate.
7) Steve Clarks 17-18 with surface piercing foils-maybe but unlikely with those kinds of foils.
8) Ct's mystery boat-unlikely if using surface piercing foils.( he said it used a foil system discarded by the Moth class if I understood correctly)
9) aeroSKIFF 14 -project stalled but not dead; close to the best if properly funded and succesfully executed.
10) Hoot-has some potential; see previous post # 67 and DA....
11) See this thread: foiling 18 - Boat Design Forums -probably not a Peoples Foiler candidate but a historic accomplishment nonetheless: the largest two foil monofoiler to foil yet-and have the pictures(VIDEO) to go with it.Additionally, I've done some calculations in the 18 thread that show that this boat appears to have the same ability to sail upwind on foils as a Moth. Only question is comparative efficiency of the rigs
Address:http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sho...d.php?p=103540
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Thats a lot of Peoples Foiler wanabe's-someone, somewhere, sometime from now will put it all together-count on it! And there may be others I don't know about but when I do they'll be written up here.... And good luck to us all......

[Chris Ostlind]

Well, Doug, it really only sorta/kinda foiled, actually.

Typical of your claims for vapor before the fact. They may actually get it together after a few adjustments to the overall placement of the foils, etc., but to call this a foiling machine is to call my Granny's dishwasher a Porsche.

Now I see where your own claims for a foiling boat have their foundation. A decided... nope, not yet from the judges.

I believe the term is premature and you should rethink your threshold in a serious way.

Perhaps you could give the blowhard stuff a rest and let the Swiss boys take their time with the development of their product.

You might be better spending your own time getting that project of yours together in the shop and not hyperventilating over a rather low-key foiling exercise by a crew on an old school 18 Skiff.

And certainly not even close to a substantive appearance on anything like a People's Boat list when the cost of this dude is gonna hit the wallet real hard in the many thousands of dollars.

Will you never stop being a putz on this stuff?

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by Chris Ostlind

Will you never stop being a putz on this stuff?

Nope, it's his nature.

I could tell you stories about doug, that would make you laugh so hard that you would cry.

[frosh]

Hi Dan, we have all tried to make logical discussion and sometimes argument with Doug, but actually it has become so boring now that it is positively mentally stultifying for me to discuss foilers any more.
To inject some excitement back into the forum why don't you retell some of the stories that you know about him. I could use a good cry, I mean laugh.

[Figgy]

putz Also found in: Columbia, Wikipedia, Hutchinson 0.04 sec.
n.
1. Slang A fool; an idiot.
2. Vulgar Slang A penis.

Thats mature, name calling. I just checked and I'm not at SA.

[casavecchia]

This is not Boat Gossip Net.
Marco.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by frosh

Hi Dan, we have all tried to make logical discussion and sometimes argument with Doug, but actually it has become so boring now that it is positively mentally stultifying for me to discuss foilers any more.

Been there done that have the t-shirt.

Debating the finer points of a topic with doug are impossible if you are on the other side.

[frosh]

Those of us that have had enough of Doug's demented rantings (me included), could just completely ignore him and his postings. This way threads would not become hijacked!
BTW I think he can't afford the $157 (estimated cost) to build the proposed (by me for a kid pilot) Aeroskiff 8. Too bad; he could prove the feasibility of the monofoiling, canting keel, sliding deck ballast, high jumping, extremely user friendly next mass production, sensation of the sailing world.