Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Wiki (beta)  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors  |  Sitemap

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Design > Sailboats
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Mirabaud-Super Foiler!

Some new pictures of Mirabaud-Thomas Jundt's new super foiler. This one shows DUAL WANDS quite far aft(click on the picture):
More pictures here:http://www.photonautique.ch/web/phot...eau=&actualite
Attached Thumbnails
mirabaud-super-foiler-3158.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Meanz Beanz Meanz Beanz is offline
Boom Doom Gloom Boom
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Rep: 585 Posts: 2,281
Location: Lower East ?


I would like to see video of how it goes at displacement speed's. This snap makes it look quite good at slower speed. I'm wondering how much the foils are helping here.

There was a discussion a while back in the multihull section about space frames. Alot of people where saying that they where not an efficient structure and monocoque was the only way to go. F1 examples and on it went... these guy seem to be flying in the face of this "wisdom"... literally

You know if they ever allow foils in 18's and they dimension this thing right I reckon you might just have a glimpse of the future of the class here.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-29-2008, 06:00 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
From Antoine in the Swiss Foiling Machine thread:
" Thomas (the engineer behind the project, who just posted answers to various questions) is probably too modest to say it, so I will: in its first race on a lake, namely the Bol d'Or du Lac de Neuchatel, in Switzerland, organised by the Cercle de la Voile de Grandson, the prototype foiler "Mirabaud LX" took 1st place in "monohulls", 17 minutes ahead of a (modified) 18-footer on a course lasting about 5 hours. The first "normal" monohull was a 42'' racer another 20mins behind.

Mirabaud LX was also only about 20mins behind the last multihull of the 32'' class Ventilo 32 (there's a very active and competitive fleet of these boats in French-speaking Swizerland).

This was in spite of very light airs which for the most part (1) prevented the LX from flying, and (2) made it a very tiring work for the crew to keep the boat on it's mini "hull".

So all in all, a pretty impressive achievement. And clearly if they have more wind in their next race, they might be able to (1) get further ahead of other monohulls, (2) possibly start mixing up w the fast multihulls.

Well done!
===================================
Thomas Jundts Blog: http://www2.jundt.ch/blog/
One thing that may not be appreciated by many is that Mirabaud is now the largest bi-foil monofoiler in the world and that,in and of itself, is a notable achievement.
I will continue to add details and references about this spectacular boat as I find them........

===========================
Thomas is also, apparently, continuing development of his foiling 18 and there
is a second foiling 18:
Attached Thumbnails
mirabaud-super-foiler-_mg_8660.jpg  mirabaud-super-foiler-_mg_8892.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-13-2008, 07:52 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Go Mirabaud!

Thomas and Mirabaud LX are racing this weekend in the Lake Geneva "Bol d'or Mirabaud". They recently won the Lake Neuchatel Bol d'or. 500 boats inclulding many top high tec cats on Lake Geneva this weekend. Yves Parlier is there demonstrating his kite powered planing cat. Mirabaud could make history....
Good luck guys!
http://www.thedailysail.com/ism/arti...Document&Login
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-14-2008, 10:33 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Lake Geneva Bol d'or Mirabaud

Mirabaud 53rd(out of 500) in todays race. 9th in class.....
http://www.boldormirabaud.com/boldor...ement=nautique
Daily Sail story of the race:
http://www.thedailysail.com/ism/arti...Document&Login

Last edited by Doug Lord : 06-17-2008 at 07:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-19-2008, 09:33 PM
asetenta asetenta is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Rep: 10 Posts: 2
Location: Argentina
Whats the max speed this boat can reach?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-19-2008, 09:45 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
The boat is optimised for relatively light air but has done over 20knots so far.
I'd bet 30+ is possible.....A Moth foiler has done 27....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Mirabaud LX

New Pix:
Attached Thumbnails
mirabaud-super-foiler-_l017743.jpg  mirabaud-super-foiler-_l018544.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-23-2008, 10:45 PM
wind_apparent's Avatar
wind_apparent wind_apparent is offline
wind driven speed addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rep: 72 Posts: 240
Location: boulder colorado
I want one.......... (it would be great for Thursday night club racing.....nacra who?)
__________________
Samuel Schneider http://sr-71monofoilerproject.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-30-2008, 05:57 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Mirabaud LX

Great video incl. the first foiling gybe for this size monofoiler:
http://www2.jundt.ch/blog/
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-30-2008, 07:55 PM
wind_apparent's Avatar
wind_apparent wind_apparent is offline
wind driven speed addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rep: 72 Posts: 240
Location: boulder colorado
boy is that thing squirly, I love it.......
__________________
Samuel Schneider http://sr-71monofoilerproject.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-03-2008, 07:56 PM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Mirabaud LX

Some insight on a couple of the innovative experiments Thomas is trying on the new boat: (e-mail published with Thomas Jundts permission)
"Thank you Doug

Yes training/testing session :

- The foil position (in front of mast) works well, Mirabaud flies better and flatter than AET[the foiling 18dl]

- The double wand système seems to work well, in any case total symmetric reactions when going upwind

Regards

Thomas"
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-21-2008, 09:48 AM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
Mirabaud has done some testing in preparation for a speed record attempt.
According to the Mirabaud website they tested the Garmin GPSmap 76s,Garmin Foretrx 201 and the Velocitek SC-10. Only the Velocitek met the Syz & Co Leman Sailing Speed Record Requirements.
This will be very interesting.......
Attached Thumbnails
mirabaud-super-foiler-_l018323.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-21-2008, 10:25 AM
wind_apparent's Avatar
wind_apparent wind_apparent is offline
wind driven speed addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rep: 72 Posts: 240
Location: boulder colorado
do you know what record they are going after?
__________________
Samuel Schneider http://sr-71monofoilerproject.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-21-2008, 10:33 AM
Doug Lord
 
Posts: n/a
1000m according to the rules above,I think.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lets talk some Super 14.... Wynand N Open Discussion 5 05-08-2007 08:42 AM
1972 super sidewinder 455 side2 Boat Design 1 12-20-2006 04:25 PM
making super sturcture in rhino pavel915 Software 3 12-01-2006 05:25 PM
Super Panga regal Boat Design 11 10-31-2006 12:31 AM
Super PUGS... Sean Herron Boat Design 1 05-23-2005 03:33 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:06 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin 3 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2009 Boat Design Net