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[mighetto]

Originally Posted by Shife

Frank, you are a liar and a raving lunatic. YOU WERE BANNED FROM SA.
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums...0764&hl=booted
You know, the place you say isn't growing even though it consistently attracts new sponsors and members. As for you being the impetus for the FT10. Yeah, right. Bill Stevens must have consulted you before posting the idea on SA. Isn't that boat everything you hate? Bulb Keel, light displacement, low freeboard, needs good sized crew, yada, yada, yada. You wouldn't know how to untie the freaking dock lines on a boat like that. Stop the lies Frank, we all know you're full of ****.

Shife. It went over the top when Tripp Gal, Sudie Parker, brought the Sailing Race game outside of the OK Coral at SA where we slung our dung like happy apes. SA will need to adapt or it will wither. I do not want that but already many clubs and organizatons have blocked SA. Most, like SSSS, have implemented private member only boards such as http://ssssclub.com/phpBB/index.php and that will continue unless the standard of behavior is improved at SA. The advertisers will move to the private boards. I had long thought SA designed to AstroTurf the TP52s. It has gone beyond that and I take some of the credit. There will never again be 10,000 views of a thread on a single day as there was that day the Church of FOYD went down there. From the ashes has come truth. The truth is that the Flying Tiger is similar to the Black Pearl. a Mac26m in Bulb Keel and light displacement. She They also have the spoon butocks I favor. Lets do analize the FT-10 here.

But seriously Are you a bonesman.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by water rat

Frank
First I am about the only one at my work place that cares about sailing, so no discussion about the Tripp 65 (or whatever it is). I really don't care A small minority of sailors would buy such a boat and that would have no effect on me.

I wish to keep anonomous. That is the neat thing about these forums.

Yes, I frequent SA, Boat Design and a few others.

About me? Well I guess I can't say that I have an abundance of experiances.
Taught myself to sail in my early teens, about 40 years ago. Even though I was brought up in a powerboat family, I became a student of all things involving sailing, navigation, boat design and engineering. Have owned 7 sailboats of various sizes. Raced most of the NW races(Tri Island, Center Sound, South Sound, 10 Swiftsures) mostly on my own boats. Cruised most of the NW waters as far as Alaska. Offshore experiance is only two solo circumnavigations of Vancouver Island(with a side trip thru the Queen Charlotte islands during one circumnavigation).

I don't believe in a lot of the politics involving sailing. But what can I say, I have only been at this for a little while, I am trying to learn as much as I can.

The big boats get the attention, the little boats make history!

great. welcome to FOYD. Common Sense III was such a great day. So was the grass roots development of the FT 10

[dumbass]

Originally Posted by Mighetto

The truth is that the Flying Tiger is similar to the Black Pearl. a Mac26m in Bulb Keel and light displacement.

Frank, that is complete bull. The only way I think someone could ever come to a conclusion like that is if they were:

1) Using mind altering drugs
2) Suffered severe brain trauma
3) Hear voices in their head

You really are like the street people who get up on the benches and start rambling incoherently to passerbys. They think that they have some sort of mission to save the world from whatever their voices tell them. Yep. Sounds like Frank.

[astevo]

Honestly Frank, How do you come up with this stuff?
I dont pretend to think for a minute that you actually believe all this stuff, Yet at the same time i wonder why you bother writing out pages and pages of this drivel. Do you get a kick out of it? Do you think that the SAers who rubbished your website deserve punishemnt and this is you vindication?
I just dont understand. I dont get it.

as dumbass most nobly put it, you are either smoking crack, or really pathetic and getting a kick out of this? Which is it?

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by dumbass

Frank, that is complete bull. The only way I think someone could ever come to a conclusion like that is if they were:

1) Using mind altering drugs
2) Suffered severe brain trauma
3) Hear voices in their head

You really are like the street people who get up on the benches and start rambling incoherently to passerbys. They think that they have some sort of mission to save the world from whatever their voices tell them. Yep. Sounds like Frank.

I have to go back to UCSB to relate to your post. UCSB was one of the first Universities to sponsor the Internet. The drug of choice was payote or acid. Perhaps from those mind altering drugs came the Internet. But in any case the Internet is giving Skull and Bonesmen, like possibly yourself, sever brain trauma. Bush, a bonesman, even hears voices from God in his head.

Now tell me that wasn't fun. 1. 2. 3. Dumbass is connected. Isn't this game fun. But not as fun as the sailing race game.

At UCSB the dorks were the ones that joined Fraternaties. Did you know they named a dorm after me. Anyway they were dorks because the dormatories were co-ed and the fraturnities not and also because one of the Fraturnaty innitiation rights was to get up on benches and ramble incoherantly at passerbys, usually with bible in hand.

University of Santa Barbara's San Miguel dorm is now referred to on the Internet as San Mighetto. Do a google to show this.

Consider the fact that the Flying Tiger 10 meter is about half the price of a J-100. Now consider the term cheep. Think cheep is good like a Magregor 26

The Flying Tiger's keel is retractable I think. Lets find out if that is true. ICON has a retractable keel and is also a Perry design. The future does not boad well for sailors that must have long fixed keels. The cannals and river entrances of the world just will not be dredged unless they are part of the super freighter distribution system. The Flying Tigers were meant to fit inside of cargo containers on thos freightets so that they could be transported easially. This notion is the same as that developed by Macgregor Yachts. Both boats of course are trailerable meaning you should belong to a club that has a lot of reciprocal moorages in many places because you will be visiting by trailering if not by coastal ocean cruising. There are lots of similarities.

The main one to hope for is 5000 hulls. The J-24s continue to sink and capsize. There replacement with J-80s has been a complete failure. I hope that the Flying Tigers are unsinkable and seriously doubt that they will require more that 4 crew to race. 4 is the recommended crew size for the MacGregors.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by astevo

Honestly Frank, How do you come up with this stuff?
I dont pretend to think for a minute that you actually believe all this stuff, Yet at the same time i wonder why you bother writing out pages and pages of this drivel. Do you get a kick out of it? Do you think that the SAers who rubbished your website deserve punishemnt and this is you vindication?
I just dont understand. I dont get it.

as dumbass most nobly put it, you are either smoking crack, or really pathetic and getting a kick out of this? Which is it?

I am running for office. Any post at South Sound Sailing Society or US Sailing. The ones on crack are the ones that think the US will ever be competitive internationally in the sailing sport without the changes we are making here at FOYD.

Welcome astevo, we look not for a leader but only for the opportunity to save ourselves. Let every vote be counted.

[Shife]

Originally Posted by mighetto

Shife. It went over the top when Tripp Gal, Sudie Parker, brought the Sailing Race game outside of the OK Coral at SA where we slung our dung like happy apes. SA will need to adapt or it will wither. I do not want that but already many clubs and organizatons have blocked SA. Most, like SSSS, have implemented private member only boards such as http://ssssclub.com/phpBB/index.php and that will continue unless the standard of behavior is improved at SA. The advertisers will move to the private boards. I had long thought SA designed to AstroTurf the TP52s. It has gone beyond that and I take some of the credit. There will never again be 10,000 views of a thread on a single day as there was that day the Church of FOYD went down there. From the ashes has come truth. The truth is that the Flying Tiger is similar to the Black Pearl. a Mac26m in Bulb Keel and light displacement. She They also have the spoon butocks I favor. Lets do analize the FT-10 here.

But seriously Are you a bonesman.

Wow. What a fantastic story Frank. Too bad it's all ******** as usual. SA doesn't need to adapt to anything. The site is popular because it DOESN"T follow the norm. TP52's are still discussed on SA. They don't need your shitty ass stamp of approval or X number of views on some lame internet forum to be successful. The flying tiger is nothing like a VO70. The only thing it has in common with your tub is that it was never designed to go offshore. It is a inshore sprit boat with a minimalist interior. The keel retracts so it can be trailered. The keel will never be retracted while sailing. That would be dangerous, slow, and stupid. Sounds alot like you. Admit that you were banned from SA or stop posting. We have shown proof that you were tossed. You have responded with more lies and delusion. And stop with the damn skull and bones conspiracy ****, I went to Michigan State, not Yale.

[sailsmall]

Originally Posted by astevo

Honestly Frank, How do you come up with this stuff?
I dont pretend to think for a minute that you actually believe all this stuff, Yet at the same time i wonder why you bother writing out pages and pages of this drivel. Do you get a kick out of it?...

What creepy sort of human being enjoys making a joke of himself around the world? This man is ridiculed without any redeeming sympathy in some far away places, and he brought it on himself. Defies belief.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by Shife

Wow. What a fantastic story Frank. Too bad it's all ******** as usual. SA doesn't need to adapt to anything. The site is popular because it DOESN"T follow the norm. TP52's are still discussed on SA. They don't need your shitty ass stamp of approval or X number of views on some lame internet forum to be successful. The flying tiger is nothing like a VO70. The only thing it has in common with your tub is that it was never designed to go offshore. It is a inshore sprit boat with a minimalist interior. The keel retracts so it can be trailered. The keel will never be retracted while sailing. That would be dangerous, slow, and stupid. Sounds alot like you. Admit that you were banned from SA or stop posting. We have shown proof that you were tossed. You have responded with more lies and delusion. And stop with the damn skull and bones conspiracy ****, I went to Michigan State, not Yale.

If SA rejects open discusion of ideas out of hand and truly has banned a fellow such as I then this is the norm of the land lubbers of Connecticut. It is not true anarchy. TP52s are the least talked about topic on SA and I even think Mr Ed frustrated with their owners because after a minimal payment for an advertisement they never followed through with payment at the going rate. Such are the ways of those who are trained by bonesmen.

The Mac26m Black Perl is also a sprit boat, an articulated sprit boat which is the only way to go best I can tell. Do you know PHRF adjusts your ratings for articulated sprits. Sigh. In anycase the mini transats, the Macgregor Black Pearl and the Flying Tiger are peas in the same pod. Relatively inexpensive vessels for the masses who want to race. See this and play cow pie bingo.

Apparently you can be recruited into the Skull and Bones through a learned society. You did not answer the question. So Skull and Bone like. But you are still chatting. A true bonesman would have left the room by now.

WOW look at the views. Skull and Bones has to be the biggest draw for any Internet forum of all times. Let the word go out. Start a Scull and bones discussion on SA. Get things rocking. Or hang here. You are always welcome at the Church of FOYD. Was it Michigan State or University of Michigan who provided the great designer Taylor who studied the design of the Mac26x and used that information to break the will of Jim Teeters to ever design again. Such a great sailing state Michigan. Do not see the connection to connecticut yet.

But I do see that when foul behavor is evident calling the offender a bonesman tones it down. Let us call the bonesmen as Judge Jackson calls ducks when when see them. Judge Jackson would be a great Supreme. What is with Harry? What they do in their coffins while reciting their sexual history (masterbate) is ugly business that we need not tolerate on the commons of the Internet. We shoot streight on Progressive Seattle Internet. Our aim is true. Get use to it.

[dumbass]

I still see that you are still not willing to admit that you were banned from SA. THe nicest thing I can say about you is that you are dishonest and an idiot.

Originally Posted by Mighetto

Did you know they named a dorm after me.

The pictures of you that I've seen indicate that college would have been a long time ago for you. I guess this is your way of claiming that you have been a public embarrasment even when you were young, and not limiting it to the last few years. And you seem so proud of being the village idiot.

Do you realize that most Mac26X owners have good reason to hate you? The Mac26X has gone from being (in most competent sailors eyes) just a poor sailing boat, to being the butt of many jokes. No wonder they banned you from their board!

I am running for office. Any post at South Sound Sailing Society or US Sailing.

I don't think they have positions equivalent to the "village idiot",
so there aren't any jobs that you are qualified for.

So Frank, are you ever going to be honest and admit that yet another site banned you - Sailing Anarchy?

[dumbass]

Originally Posted by Mighetto

If SA rejects open discusion of ideas out of hand and truly has banned a fellow such as I then this is the norm of the land lubbers of Connecticut. It is not true anarchy.

There is a vast difference between open discussion of ideas, and giving a podium to the "village idiot". Your knowledge of subjects related to sailing is so limited, and usually wrong, and you seem to be unable to grasp fundamental concepts even when they are explained over and over again. So banning you has had no impact on the discussion of ideas, because the only thing you ever really contributed to SA was to make both you and the Mac26x the butt of countless jokes.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by dumbass

There is a vast difference between open discussion of ideas, and giving a podium to the "village idiot". Your knowledge of subjects related to sailing is so limited, and usually wrong, and you seem to be unable to grasp fundamental concepts even when they are explained over and over again. So banning you has had no impact on the discussion of ideas, because the only thing you ever really contributed to SA was to make both you and the Mac26x the butt of countless jokes.

Oh dumbass, you are so behind me now. Left in the wake of those who have powerboat knowledge. That is the knowledge that is important for modern sailboat design. Did you know that the S2 7.9 was designed by a powerboat designer who was prohibited from powerboat design for a period of years after selling his business. Such are the mind expanding notions those seaking truth discover on Seattle's Progressive Internet. Stay on for the ride. Did you also know that Perry attempted to introduce the world to a powersailer called the maxitrailerable. He was ahead of his time. He even attempted to get into mass production but alas only one was ever produced. The butt of countless jokes is the jewel of the boat design business. 5000 hulls in less time than the bigboaters could get them on their radar. You will see in time just as those Republicans who believe it is our president right or wrong will find that a statement of treason. The problem with the Skull and Bones is that it is the bones society over everthing. The bones society right or wrong and definately the bones over the USA or any king, kingdom, nation or religion. How this country could have two bonesmen on the ballot and 5 Harvard grads on the Supreme Court is the tradgedy of the close minded. Hey Mrs Frank is making Margs. You do not want me to turn her loose on you. Darn those Cougs. Lost to Stanford but that is my leed in to the Robot Race. Chat with you later. We are watching the SF game. A complete turnaround. Never liked the Colts. Pearl will be visiting SF in three weeks. Stanford is a second Meca to Costa Mesa for her.

[Shife]

So let me guess: Your new fascination with the Skull and Bones society is due to watching the program on National Geographic last weekend about secret societies. And because you watched said program, you are now an expert. Correct? I think so. Stop lying and fess up to being banned from SA. We are not going to let you dodge this bullet.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by dumbass

There is a vast difference between open discussion of ideas, and giving a podium to the "village idiot". Your knowledge of subjects related to sailing is so limited, and usually wrong, and you seem to be unable to grasp fundamental concepts even when they are explained over and over again. So banning you has had no impact on the discussion of ideas, because the only thing you ever really contributed to SA was to make both you and the Mac26x the butt of countless jokes.

Oh what a muse dumbass is. He is a bright angle. (for those who follow me I remind you of the Bright Angle trail in Arizona.) Arizona is the state the new head of the boys and girls club came from. Lets connect the dots again. The Bush family is a big supporter of Boys and Girls Club. G W and Barb are honerary chairpersions. Bush recently reminded Americans of how charities are used to do wrong. Bush, Boys and Girls Club, Connecticut.

The Boys and Girls club should have nothing to do with sailing but argh its the Sudie Parker influence. Lets point out that the Boys and Girls club is like the Catholic church in its real estate holdings. If they wanted to do good there are assets a plenty to sell. They amass these holdings by getting communities to help them build club houses. It is so Bush. Private Public partnerships. Only the clubs usually go into areas that will become prime real estate holdings eventually. In otherwords not the poorer sections of town where "democrats" also known as black folk among the Republicans live. OK I have to get off of the Republicans. Who among us has not at one time aspired to be one. It is the Bones we pick on now. We are advanced beyond petty party concerns. True anarchists coming into our own.

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by Shife

So let me guess: Your new fascination with the Skull and Bones society is due to watching the program on National Geographic last weekend about secret societies. And because you watched said program, you are now an expert. Correct? I think so. Stop lying and fess up to being banned from SA. We are not going to let you dodge this bullet.

No I missed it as I did my ban. Lets move on and agree to disagree on the ban business. The robot race sure was fun. Naturally the team from the West coast did best. Those Stanford and Berkeley grads come up with the best DARPA projects of all. The Volkswagon Robot today and the Internet yesterday. And of course boat designers from the west are by far the best. I am not just talking about Roger MacGregor, a Stanford grad.

The 2007 generation AC boats are being built in Sedro Wooly Washington which contrary to the press spin is not a Seattle suburban area. It is already happening – the negative spin over the last AC. Sedro Wooly is about as close to Seattle as Olympia is. Seattle is code for cheat in the sailing world. We must see that to get beyond it. Lets not pretend Seattle will be a sailing town for at least another decade. There are repercussions to the community when designing cheaters are welcomed within. Seattle will be a Hydroplane town. That isn’t all bad. Port Townsend, Anacortes, Olympia – these are the sailing towns of Washington now.

I note that the designer of Larry’s next AC boats is pitted against the designer of the AC boats for the King of Spain and the King of Norway. Its exactly the kind of battle to inspire the Brave Hearts of Sailing Anarchy.