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[mighetto]

Originally Posted by FranksaDork

Frank, you're cracking me up. Your dues have nothing to do with the forum. You have no rights to use it as a member of SSSS. it is not owned by SSSS. Keep them out of it ok? And it doesn't matter whom holds the title of moderator. If the OWNER of the board wants you out, guess what, you're out.

Dork, are you feeding one to whom "the protest" was directed? I mean it is like your words out of his mouth last night.

I speak for the Board with the following sentence: It is the opinion of SSSS that the BB in discusion is and has always been - AND WILL REMAIN - the valued property of SSSS. Furthermore there has never been a vision that the BB was an "experiment" that might be shut down if needed. This resource is the reason some members have chosen to purchase memberships. Now back to simple mighetto-isms

Motions to designate the donator of the BB as moderator were not recognised by the chairman last night. (I wounder what twisted logic thinks that is important?) There was discusson that Rich, the designated moderator, did not have the ability to remove posts but Rich has always been an excellent moderator of my material and a phone call to one with that ability should be all he needs.

I watched the melt down when it was happening and while the donator has taken responsibilty for removing legitimate posts by me, I did not see his handle active during the melt down, or when the posts regarding SSSS ownership were being removed. I did see Tripp Gal and Crank Boy. I think he covered for someone who had confused him into thinking moderator was a role he had authorization to to take or confused him into thinking he was still an owner. Actually, I know he had help because he obtained my home IP address, or says he did, and that would not have been possible unless he was working with a Sailing Anarchist. I do not chose to speak for the SSSS board on the unbolded material above at this time. Plus I have promissed not to share my phone conversation with the donator with anyone. Perhaps he will find a voice here today.

We are now an "owner society" in the US. That means you make decisions like an owner, not like a Dork.

[pkoken]

And to think that all of these years I naively believed that racing sailing yachts was about actually SAILING THEM...

Thank you Frank for correcting me, I now understand that the true definition of racing a sailboat is discussing said activity on the internet.

While I have trophies for the first, I am afraid I have won NOTHING for the second...

[pkoken]

Originally Posted by mighetto

Rich has always been an excellent moderator of my material.

So I take he was quite liberal with the DELETE KEY Frank?

[mighetto]

Originally Posted by pkoken

And to think that all of these years I naively believed that racing sailing yachts was about actually SAILING THEM...
Thank you Frank for correcting me, I now understand that the true definition of racing a sailboat is discussing said activity on the internet.

While I have trophies for the first, I am afraid I have won NOTHING for the second...

Well I am unsure of where you are coming from. Sailboat racing is not racing it is a race game and there are rules to the game and it is a board game, where the board is the race course. It is also a design game because you can design the vessel for the course and for the rules if those rules involve design. It is surprising to me how many do not know this. Do you play any other game without first reading the rules? And while playing any other game do you not call it cheeting when those rules are broken? I see nothing different about Internet behavior than dockside behavior when it comes to sailing. Both are part of the race game and I think the existing rules that are applied to dockside behavior also apply to Internet behavior. The protest if it had been filed by the committee would have clearified this. It would have been president setting and would have advanced the sport. Perhaps just the warning shot has already done this.

Damn it - I have just been drafted for yet another committee. Argh save me.

[pkoken]

Originally Posted by mighetto

Well I am unsure of where you are coming from. Sailboat racing is not racing it is a race game and there are rules to the game and it is a board game, where the board is the race course. It is also a design game because you can design the vessel for the course and for the rules if those rules involve design. It is surprising to me how many do not know this. Do you play any other game without first reading the rules? And while playing any other game do you not call it cheeting when those rules are broken?

Damn it - I have just been drafted for yet another committee. Argh save me.

Nothing you said has anything to do with internet forums Frank, Every race I have participated in had meetings (in person) to discuss protests / rules / course changes... are you saying that your particular racing organization has decided to do away with skippers meetings and replace them with e-mail? Does everyone racing have a laptop aboard with a wireless e-mail connection? Do you get race spam??

I have seen & read some pretty stupid protests before, but if you are protesting a race committee because you were banned from a club forum for being an idiot then YOUR protest takes the cake.

[Shife]

"Actually, I know he had help because he obtained my home IP address, or says he did, and that would not have been possible unless he was working with a Sailing Anarchist. "

Frankie, I've been watching your train wreck thread for quite some time and this is by far one of the more delusional things you've said. You're in IT correct? If so you should have some idea as to how ridiculously easy it is to get someones IP address. Frank, there is no SA conspiracy against you. Get over it.

[Shife]

"With modern reporting, only thrill seakers will run into storms. The storms and hurricanes we had this season on the east coast of the USA confirmed the notion that a distance no greater than 60 miles is all that is needed to avoid storms. This means only operators of slow sailing and motoring vessels can claim competency while relating a story about weathering a storm at sea. That would not be the operator of a race boat."

Do you really believe this Frank? If so it only proves once again that you have no idea what sailboat racing really is.

[mistral]

Originally Posted by Shife

Do you really believe this Frank? If so it only proves once again that you have no idea what sailboat racing really is.

Frankie has no idea of what SAILING is.

Mistral

[FranksaDork]

Originally Posted by mighetto

It is the opinion of SSSS that the BB in discusion is and has always been - AND WILL REMAIN - the valued property of SSSS. Furthermore there has never been a vision that the BB was an "experiment" that might be shut down if needed. This resource is the reason some members have chosen to purchase memberships.

Motions to designate the donator of the BB as moderator were not recognised by the chairman last night. (I wounder what twisted logic thinks that is important?) There was discusson that Rich, the designated moderator, did not have the ability to remove posts but Rich has always been an excellent moderator of my material and a phone call to one with that ability should be all he needs.

I watched the melt down when it was happening and while the donator has taken responsibilty for removing legitimate posts by me, I did not see his handle active during the melt down, or when the posts regarding SSSS ownership were being removed. I did see Tripp Gal and Crank Boy. I think he covered for someone who had confused him into thinking moderator was a role he had authorization to to take or confused him into thinking he was still an owner. Actually, I know he had help because he obtained my home IP address, or says he did, and that would not have been possible unless he was working with a Sailing Anarchist. I do not chose to speak for the SSSS board on the unbolded material above at this time. Plus I have promissed not to share my phone conversation with the donator with anyone. Perhaps he will find a voice here today.

We are now an "owner society" in the US. That means you make decisions like an owner, not like a Dork.

Well, I won't argue about it. I WILL say after reading the above statement that, You have absolutely no idea what is/was going on. Sail is the owner of the BB (not SSSS). He appointed Rich to assist with the moderation due to time restrictions(I won't go into the details of that. Nobody's business).

As a favor, Sail graciously donated his server space to set up an maintain a board that could be used by SSSS members and other's as a meeting place, much like this one.

Between your rambling posts and the BS that you attracted to the site, he got fed up with the BB as a whole and decided the "experiment" was (or soon will be) over. That may or may not change depending on what Sail decides but, If SSSS wants a BB, they can start one up. No problem.

As far as your imaginary "hack" by Tripp Gal and Crank Boy, that's all it is. Imaginary.

*sigh*. I'm done explaining it to you. Without adding specifics that people here don't need to know or hear I can't make it any more clear and, If you don't get it by now, you won't.

[barleymalt]

*sigh*. I'm done explaining it to you. Without adding specifics that people here don't need to know or hear I can't make it any more clear and, If you don't get it by now, you won't.[/quote]

The really sad thing is that it took 30 odd pages of Mighetroll spew to reach that conclusion. That is time you will never get back. Trying to reason with him is like trying to teach your dog to talk; a noble pursuit, but ultimately pointless.

[FranksaDork]

Originally Posted by barleymalt

Trying to reason with him is like trying to teach your dog to talk; a noble pursuit, but ultimately pointless.

But at least with the dog, you have a slight chance.

[CT 249]

Also, if you get pissed off with your dog's inability to learn, you can't take out your frustrations on it....hurting a dumb animal like that is cruel.

In contrast, taking out your frustrations on a dumb animal like Frank is a good clean sport that should be encouraged.

Mighetto, you are a two-faced coward. You insult designers, skippers, owners and crews of TP52s and other boats; you accuse a naval architect of committing perjury as part of some bizarre plot; you implicitly assert that rating authorities, designers and builders are committing unprofessional conduct and are failing in professional standards and duties; and then you run away and complain to the race committee.

Have you ever thought that any organisation MUST ban your ravings lest they be sued for defamation by Teeters, for allowing your disgusting, cheating, low-life paranoid accusations get aired?

Frank, your activities are threatening the sites you visit and the club of which you are a member. These ravings of yours are published (in technical legal terms) in countries where your BS is clearly defamatory under law. The SSSS HAS to take action to prevent itself landing in trouble because of YOUR actions.

[Mark 42]

I challenge anyone to read the "10 Myths" dissertations without
shaking your head and saying "no, No, NO!" out loud.
(use the tabs at the top to navigate the website)

http://www.amasci.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm

[Shife]

Why does this idiot have 2 different URL's for his amazing breakthrough cruising log?

http://www.amasci.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm
http://www.eskimo.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm

[gybeset]

Originally Posted by Shife

Why does this idiot have 2 different URL's for his amazing breakthrough cruising log?

http://www.amasci.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm
http://www.eskimo.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm

some kinda contingwncy, after all HWSNBM can't deny us our education cos 1 server may de down !

paranoia , forces of evil may strike his site