Bayliner Buccaneer 295.. Oh and hello!

[Boston]

the real question is how much you paid for a, buck an ear

[jboswell]

Originally Posted by souljour2000

...the superstructure is obviously going to be a hell of a lot of work and your going to spend alot of cash over the 2-3 years I'd guess you'd need to bring her around

Yeah, I can amortize the cost over 2-3 years as well as control it a lot easier doing the work and learning how to do it as well. Ideally just rebuilding boats for a living and selling them, kinda like flipping houses really. I don't mind the work at all, it's effectively just more exercise really, get a good sweat going, get in shape, build equity, learn a new trade, pretty good ROI I would say.

Originally Posted by souljour2000

...but what is the condition of the keel Joe? Is there going to be alot of work needing done there?

Well, from what I can tell it's fine? I honestly wouldn't know how to go about checking that out hah, like, it all looks really solid at this point, other than the little stuff I mentioned above. There may be water that leaked into it, I will know more when I drill the holes, but I kinda doubt it, it just looks like there was a mat of glass that wasn't thrown in on top of things very well and there may be gaps under it, nothing all that extreme provided I can just dry them out and seal em up. I have plenty of time for that at the moment because the planning stage is keeping me more than occupied. Summer is also coming up, which means no rain and lots of wonderful heat great conditions for laying glass.

[jboswell]

the real question is how much you paid for a, buck an ear

$4k all in. I figured it was so cheap that as long as it floated I could prolly get my money back on it... So far I am more than fine with the cost of it, could have prolly gotten it 1-2k cheaper outside of Los Angeles in a similar condition, but then I would have to deal with getting it here.

[souljour2000]

yeah...I'd wanna check that whole keel area real well and soon...there is likely grounding damage after this many years...though it may be minimal...frankly, you just never know as there's no "carfax" for boats as far as I know...even if there was I'd want to check the area myself and would want to know that the damn thing isn't about to fall off if I do run aground on a shoal on a bar approach at night or anywhere else for that matter. It's probably fine... I suspect it's got good thickness down there where it counts ...but I'd wanna know for sure before I sank any more cash into her...

[Boston]

Originally Posted by jboswell

$4k all in. I figured it was so cheap that as long as it floated I could prolly get my money back on it... So far I am more than fine with the cost of it, could have prolly gotten it 1-2k cheaper outside of Los Angeles in a similar condition, but then I would have to deal with getting it here.

actually I was making a really bad joke about the name
a buck ( dollar ) an ear

correct answer might have been "depends on how many heads it has
(heads = bathrooms)

bad I know but it was late and Im on a lot of medication for my back
no worries
I only have a few more days of the medication left

then my humor should improve

cheers
B

[jboswell]

Originally Posted by souljour2000

...but I'd wanna know for sure before I sank any more cash into her...

Very good point, I should probably get down there and do the exploratory drilling next weekend first thing. Would hate to drop more time/money in at all before I knew for sure she was solid.

Still though, I suppose I would still need to fix the damage that is there irregardless of whether or not it exists.

actually I was making a really bad joke about the name
a buck ( dollar ) an ear

correct answer might have been "depends on how many heads it has
(heads = bathrooms)

bad I know but it was late and Im on a lot of medication for my back
no worries
I only have a few more days of the medication left

Yeah I kinda thought it was a joke, but I wasn't really too sure haha, some days I am not so quick on the uptake... I think it was fairly late for me at the time as well, figured I would post the info anyway just for additional info.

Man I know the feeling on back stuff, I have had so many back problems it's ridiculous, most of it is due to me going from one extreme (inactivity for months, sitting behind a comp working) to the other (working on a boat.) Usually if I just keep working out consistently and doing a few sets of crunches a week it goes away, so yeah, in my case it is totally preventable I am just lazy.

[reluhcs]

Joe,
I'm thinking about taking on a Buccaneer 295 also and was curious to see how yours is coming along. Any updates to post or did the project get scraped?

Dave

[jboswell]

It is very much still in the works, I have only just been able to sit back down on it and get work done these last few weeks, summer and fall were very busy for me so I had almost no time on the boat.

I will post my progress so far and current plans for where it is going. I don't know how much progress I have made since I have been kinda nose to the grindstone these last few weeks, but I have pics and will post them up here, probably this coming weekend.

Overall the boat design isn't bad (it was used by a number of other manufacturers and created by a pretty big name in boat racing [Peterson],) but I have heard people complaining about the fact that Bayliner had apparently done a cheapo slap together of the thing. I have stripped mine completely down to the hull inside and it is holding up fine and everything looks pretty solid to me, take that with a grain of salt though, my primary profession isn't boat building.

Joe

[reluhcs]

That's great to hear Joe. I have found your post very informative and I'm really glad you uploaded so many good pictures.

I have been reacquainted with sailing on my friend's Buc 295 for the last couple months here in Texas on a freshwater lake. I have really enjoyed how well this sailboat performs in light winds and the heavy gusty stuff we get here. This boat has a large sail inventory and it's been very educational taking it out. I've been looking around for something in the 30' range also but recently my friend has mentioned he'd like to sell his to me. I'm very tempted to take him up on the offer.

If you ever need pictures of anything on a Buc 295 to help get yours put back together let me know. His rigging topside is in great shape and complete. One thing that really impressed me about his is the size of the chain plates. I'm pretty sure that are not the original ones. They are about 24" long and 4" wide, very tough looking. You can really take one of those big gusty hits with confidence.

Anyways post more pictures and let me know if I can supply any to help you out.

Dave

[jboswell]

Updated pics.

These pics are basically the latest work on the interior, I tore out the bulkheads and sanded everything down to the hull.

• Pulled one of the gunwales (leaking) and had intended to pull them all but I will not be able to get all that done before leaving the marina so that has been put on hold. That is the holes on the side of the boat there, I basically drilled out the old bolts and filled the holes with poly resin and microballoons.
  
• I also took a pic of how I am securing the mast at the moment, that rope is strong as ****, cant remember the name of it but it can take a lot of strain so I am not too worried about the mast coming down while the work is going on.
  
• I have started designing the interior, the forward 1/2 is mostly done, and I have been cutting the sections out as I go, so far the floor and VBerth are cut, going to be sealing them and coating with fiberglass and gelcoat.
  
• Made some templates for the new windows and had a plastics shop cut them out, they look pretty slick.
  
• Stripped the outside of the boat down to the gelcoat, putting a coat of poly primer on there when I am done cleaning the rest of that up and hooking it up with a sweet paint job.

In order to get cleaner lines on the hatches I basically rough cut out the pieces with a jigsaw, then do a much finer cut on that piece, do a quick wrap with plastic and then set it into the hole and fill all the edges up with resin/filler, from there it will be sealing the pieces, giving them a gelcoat cover, some fiberglass, primer and paint.