around the world voyage

[chiroeurope]

To those that stated it is a no contest with a large vessel you are quiet right and anyone should get out of their way and than hang the majority of the crews for criminal negligence at the first port that will allow it. The Chiefs I know have often walked onto the Bridge while off shift to find the watch sound asleep or watching a movie with headset on and music loud enough to wake him two decks removed.

Let's see 10 yrs old start lawn and garden business, Twelve was running a news route with my brother and running the lawn/garden business, 17 started a small advertising firm with a few friends after having sold my interest in the lawn/garden business to two friends (one of them still runs it to this day and is doing well in even these times and his sons/daughter are doing similar type projects to earn their cash) so I could train for road racing bicycles. At 17 also enlisted in the reserve armed forces (with 16 yrs of good service there). We seriously underestimate the young. I am trying not to do that with my children (Son & middle daughter can both count to ten in four languages and learning to speak two well and we are looking at adding two more as possible). Youngest daughter is not one and cimbs the stairs by herself and yet knows not to try to go down them as she can't get her balance right yet for backing down them (I don't expect that to be much longer though). Sold my share of the Ad business at 19 under advise of my father (dad worked in the re-insurance industry) due to directions the other partners wanted to go with it and the type and costs of insurance that was required by law at the time to due that type of work (designing and making signs for small business).

Getting back to the point of the article though:

1) Yes, she should have taken the time to get more experience and plan out how to deal with these type of problems when they arise (NOT IF WHEN). I was lucky enough to have grandparents who taught me to think that way when young and the military help drive that point deeply home.

2) If she had an AIS it might or might not have mattered as IF there is NO ONE ON WATCH (ie asleep or other wise distract or could not care as they can't see you), than you are screwed. As pointed out by more than a few here they are out to kill you even when they are not (interesting a sailboat's view on this is the same as a motorcyclist of all cars and trucks).

3) Lastly, it looks like she is now getting some serious offers of backing and hopefully that will include a support crew (land based not following) that will help her truly get ready to do this things seriously.

I wish her and those here the best of luck in your endeavours, even if I don't agree with you on a good many things.

Godspeed and good winds.

Michael

Edited to correct what spelling I saw was wrong and clarify a few points.

[Ramona]

Originally Posted by chiroeurope

2) If she had an AIS it might or might not have mattered as IF there is NO ONE ON WATCH (ie asleep or other wise distract or could not care as they can't see you), than you are screwed. As pointed out by more than a few here they are out to kill you even when they are not (interesting a sailboat's view on this is the same as a motorcyclist of all cars and trucks).

Yes she had AIS and any other aid you can think of. What she lacked was common sense.

Please read the article from a local paper, says a lot about the parents too;

http://www.thedaily.com.au/story/200...n-hit-and-run/

[masalai]

An AIS receiver has a range up to the capacity to receive VHF on 161.975 and 162.025 MHZ and should be able to receive data 24 of more miles distant and give 'a tail' indicating course visually as well as vessel data on a "targeted vessel" heading, cog, sog and position etc, so a prudent response in light to variable winds would be to fire up the engine early, and get out of the road. on the assumption the crew are inattentive and derelict in their duties. The ships radar would NOT necessarily detect the yacht and the ignorant night watch 'deckie', in all likelihood will not understand English - so, what is new? an AIS receiver can be bought for around 229 pounds sterling or less, use it to AVOID other vessels, only a fool would endeavour to 'assert their right of way'....

[sharpii2]

Originally Posted by wardd

our ancesters died in their 40's

True, but not quite true.

40 was probably the AVERGE age people died at during those times.

That takes into account everyone who died from child birth on.

It's not like a 'Star Trek' episode where everyone croaks before their thirtieth or fortieth birthdays.

I think the bigger issue here is what is life for.

Is it to live as long as possible. Or is it to take some daring risks that may shorten it dramatically in exchange for exceptionality or even meaning.

I don't think there is one standard correct answer to this.

What she hopes to do is indeed dangerous, but I don't see it at all as a suicide mission.

If she were a few years younger, I might have.

[wardd]

during the middle ages when the young ruled anyone in their 50's was a rarity

it was a hard life

[Manie B]

Gents here comes the reality

There is no excuse whatsoever for maintaining a course to the point of collision. The fact that this young skipper spent valuable time trying to radio a fully laden tanker and get them to change course for a 34 foot sail boat speaks to a significant and dangerous gap in her preparation and qualifications.

http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/J...-mystery/61161

http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/C...--Part-1/33386

http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/C...--Part-2/33865

http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/C...--Part-3/34069



not good is it

[Manie B]

and the question still remains

is it the childs dream

or is it the parent that wants to relive their own life via the child







we all have missed opportunities

[TeddyDiver]

Missing an occasional boat maybe but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMdTeAWoLs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoAOP...eature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlhAx...eature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZAS...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBiC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PrFk...om=PL&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjmK...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUT6j...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk1un...eature=related
Pure stupidity, negligence, immaturity and ships designed to disregard marine laws..

[Manie B]

Teddy nice videos, i sat and watched them with my early morning cuppa coffee, woke up early - good enternainment

back to Jessica



Daddy loves the limelight

he has this whole thing planned out carefully

the book - the video's - movie rights - fame and fortune

Hollywood here we come - reality TV at its best

Mr Watson said

Jessica's father says

Scott Young, CEO of the Watson family's PR company

So here is the next question:

If a parent is responsible for the well being and safety of their child, surely that parent should face criminal charges if they were party and /or consented to an event that led to serious injury or the death of that child.
Now i am not saying that you must wrap the little buggers in cotton wool, but when there is money involved and all the parent sees is the bucks there is cause for alarm. Its like gold fever where you sacrifice your child to the gods of wealth.

So maybe you guys can help me out here.
I cannot find ANY evidence that she attended sailing school other than what she was taught by her father.
And worse still there is no evidence of her doing a long run.
If she had sailed up and down the coast or maybe to Hobart or Wellington i could still say ok she's been out there

but no - the race is on to be the YOUNGEST - fu3k everything else

all over the world we have laws to protect the little buggers, the worst law mistake ever - was to banish corporal punisment at schools, i got a hiding once a week at school because i deserved it. I was a naughty little shit that could take out a pigeon at 30 yards (and many windows) with a sling-shot, dipped the girls hair in the ink pot and looked up their skirts.
Our schools were CLEAN and no graffiti, we came thru it all OK

I have seen this parent nonsence at school now for the past 15 years, rugby, soccer, horse riding, netball, hockey, dancing, music lessons, dinghy sailing, and water ski-ing. Please believe me when i tell that when these parents had a some money they became gods and their children little angels that that were top achievers on thier way to fame and fortune. Now that they are grown up 95 % ARE LOSERS working as waiters and bar staff tending tables.


this youngest this, and youngest that, must be stopped

we have a saying

"vroeg ryp vroeg vrot"

which means = ripe early rotten early

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by Manie B

Now that they are grown up 95 % ARE LOSERS working as waiters and bar staff tending tables.

And doing not too well in that either..

[bntii]

It's just how these things happen Mannie:

"Tania Aebi (born October 7, 1966) is a Swiss-American woman who completed a solo circumnavigation of the globe in a 26 foot sailboat between the ages of 18 and 21. Despite many challenges, she accomplished her goal and proved to her father that she could complete something.

Aebi recounts the story of her voyage in her book Maiden Voyage. The book is a story of teenage angst, self discovery and adventure. Aebi's story is unusual because she was poorly prepared for her voyage, but prevailed through common sense and determination.

Aebi had practically no sailing or navigation experience when she departed on her journey. Aebi did not have a GPS receiver. At the time of her circumnavigation GPS equipment was not standard equipment on pleasure craft. Instead, Aebi had a sextant for celestial navigation and a radio direction finder. She did not sea trial her boat and was plagued by factory defects that could easily have been corrected before departure."

[Manie B]

Drum roll rrrrr dd rrrrr dd rrrr dha

here comes the publicity machine

http://www.theage.com.au/national/te...0909-fg9n.html

pretty picture tho

if you want to read rude stuff go to SA

apparently the boat has suffered internal damage

[Manie B]

jeez we are famooooos alreaday

[hoytedow]

Smaller government and more brains. We are also overburdened with excessive legislation from all sides. I hope she survives this attempt.

[Manie B]

This is gonna hurt

Maritime Safety Queensland (MSQ) inspectors have now issued a statement which concludes that Jessica is not competent to undertake the journey that she is planning.

http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/M...y-asleep/61651

and sorry to say when i read this i shake my head in disbelief

Jessica was not explaining, and, after a few inappropriate statements about the character of the Silver Yang's crew, neither were her parents. Her PR company stated that they couldn't explain

yeah yeah some will agree

and some wont

what ever