PTI motar

Discussion in 'Propulsion' started by krishna071, Nov 18, 2009.

  1. krishna071
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    Does any one know how PTI motar works in marine gearbox?
     
  2. apex1

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    Does anyone know what PTI motar is?
     
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    I am talking about the PTI/PTO solution on the gearbox for marine engines. PTI solution facilitates the propulsion to be operated when the main engine is disconnected from the gearbox. I know only that PTI motar can be engaged with the gearbox while main engine is disengaged to move operate the propulsion. BUt I dont know how this PTI motar works
     
  4. apex1

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    I think you mean MOTOR not motar!?

    The PTO "power take off" is easy to understand (damned American disease of using acronyms for everything)

    The "power take in" (PTI) is commonly a El. motor, driven by Generator.

    Did that help?

    Regards
    Richard
     
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    yea, we should use 500 letter compound nouns
     
  6. mark775

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    Oh, don't exaggerate...PTI - "Thethingoneattachestotodrivetheboatwhenthemainquits."
     
  7. apex1

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    You´ve got it Mark! Thank you!

    Isntitmucheasiertounderstandthanthegoddamnacronyms?
     
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    There are many kinds of PTOs. They can be engaged continuosly or not. They can be engaged with a clutch, a spline or hydraulics. They can have variable speed or fixed. The can be reduced or multiplied through the gearbox. They can come right of the crankshaft. They can come off a gear from the crankshaft. They can be chain driven from the crankshaft. They can be belt driven...etc, etc.
     
  9. apex1

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    Nono Gonzo.

    P T I was the topic! There are not many ways. And the most common was mentioned.
     
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    I was barking at the wrong motar :(
     
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    OK, Let me rewrite my question..

    I am interested in understanding how Power take-in (PTI) motor is working.

    PTI is also called auxillary propulsion drive (APD).
     
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    Richard I understand that PTI is an elec motor operated by generator.. but PTI is driven by the main engine too..So I am confused how it works when PTI drives the propulsion when the main engine is disengaged. Can you elaborate if you know the working of this mechanism?
     
  13. mark775

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    Interested in a near-silent electric auxiliary (to not disturb wildlife), I approached ZF with this question a few years ago and they brushed me off. I assumed I would have to wait until I got my hands on a broken one or buy new... please post if you find anything. - Mark
     
  14. apex1

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    No krishna,
    the main engine is coupled to the gear in the common way.
    A gearbox with pto has just a shaft coming out the box where you can "draw" some power. Means, couple a hydraulic compressor or something the like.
    If the gearbox is designed to RECEIVE power through such a shaft (the common PTO cannot!) we say PTI.
    That is a second "power in" shaft and a second coupling.
    On some MIL. vessel setups you find PTI´s which operate simultaneously with the main to provide additional power.
    More common is, that the main is´nt coupled when you use the PTI input.
    A "coming home" propulsion, or the useage intended by Mark, is such a case.

    Although a PTO is quite cheap and widely used for many applications (from watermaker through El. generation, `til Hydraulic setups), the PTI gearbox is not. It is a expensive piece of metal.

    Mark, ZF should have several off the shelve boxes for your application.

    Regards
    Richard
     

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    if we all speak in acronyms does that mean richard wont understand?
     
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