Marine Gas Turbines

[peter fisher]

Originally Posted by ClarkT

Search around for a paper by Dean Schleicher or Cardrock about Turbine installation in a Navy test boat. I'm pretty sure it was published by SNAME in the late 1990's.

Clark

ta thanks for the input
pete

[peter fisher]

Originally Posted by Tad

Peter;

Frank Mulder Mulder Design is the expert on using gas turbines in high-speed yachts. Also Gary Grant in the USA, Gary Grant has done some work with smaller gas turbines. I believe the Finish Masmar 75J is aimed at just the type project you are looking at. The only place I can think of where gas turbines and waterjets are currently used is in high-speed cat passanger ferries in the far east. These are using Textron Lycoming turbines. Allison Gas Turbine is or was into some marine installations. Another name is Allen Industries Inc in Seattle, specialist in gas turbines starting with unlimited hydroplanes. I have an old Boating article on a Fountain 42' with a pair of RR Gnome H-1000s running through Mercruiser drives. Destriero was designed by Donald Blount, contact his office for info, three GE LM 1600s, almost 50,000 HP.

Good luck, Tad

Tad

thanks a bunch
pete

[peter fisher]

Originally Posted by SailDesign

Also look in Peter du Cane's book "High Speed Small Craft". Lots and LOTS of good info in there, both turbine and waterjet.

Steve

Steve

Thanks for the advice
pete

[peter fisher]

Originally Posted by Willallison

I too have an old article, from "Motorboat & Yachting" - this ones about a cat built by Howard Arneson, powered I think form memory by a turbine from a bell helicopter driving thru one of his surface drives....

Will
Thankyou for the input
pete

[peter fisher]

Originally Posted by Corpus Skipper

This is where your "marine" gas turbines will all be from, due to light weight. Avco-Lycoming T40-B engines are used by the Navy in LCACs (Landing Craft, Air Cushion). Larger ships are powered by General Electric LM (Land/Marine) 2500s, with Allison 501-K17/K34s for generation. The now decommissioned PHMs (hydrofoils) also used the LM 2500. None used jet propulsion, except for the PHMs diesel auxiliary engines for hull-born use (funny, huh?). Excellent propulsion choice, very reliable, but WAY expensive!!! Direct drive would be more efficient, but if draft is a concern, jet drive would be possible. These engines (except for the LM 2500) have a PTO on the compressor end and can easily be coupled to the drive system of your choice. By the way, I was a Navy Gas Turbine Systems Technician, so this info. is all good. Good luck!

Craig, thanks
pete

[thodge75]

Hey Peter, my name is Tony Hodge and I am fascinated with marine turbines. Is it posiible to fabricate turbines for radio controlled boats?

[yipster]

exploded view ofa small 7lbs thrust wren-turbine
there are other brands too and they are not uncommen in RC planes.
sometimes you find them on e-bay and a deeper search may even show model turbine boats..

[thodge75]

I think the diagram is helpful. It is also an insiration. Now the next step is to get the materials and I hope I can gain some ground sometime. Thanks for refering me to ebay about the turbines. I will check it out.

[D'ARTOIS]

www.turbinemarine.com

[thodge75]

Thanks D'artois for posting the turbine marine website. I really enjoyed it. Now, I am hungry for more.

[navy boi]

I haven't followed the thread But when i saw that you where dealing with gasturbines for marine applications i would like to name a swedish company that works with (among other things) gasturbine control systems, www.nira.se.
The system is in use in a couple of ships, fast going.

NIRA is the company that developed the Volvo Penta EDC and started CPAC systems that now makes the VP EVC.

Maybe you have this all covered already:

[thodge75]

Thanks for posting this site to me. If there is anything I can do just give a shout.

[yipster]

http://www.texs.com/magazine/tsg_13.htm
searching the net for turbines i see Jeff placed this link allreadeady 3 years ago. running on jetA or diesel most turbines only seem to be more thirsty than diesels at stationair. water injection isnt used much since jets hate to cary extra load, steam flashing is used however forexample only when jump jets start and land since it considerably improves thrust. how is that with boat turbines?

[yipster]

Arneson industries has developed a reliable proven package for turbine engine applications

[thodge75]

Whoever sent the e-mail about the Arneson surface drives with turbine application, I thank for sharing my interest for gas turbines.