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Old 12-24-2009, 04:20 PM
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All these talks should not happen.
They do happen only because state research on electromagnetic behaviour of water is cancelled or reserved for military or space use.

Nothing on pure fusion, nothing on water memory and electromagnetic behaviour, nothing on sonoluminescence, even on thermo acoustic basic pumping tech like this historic "belier" pumps certainly as old as mankind, also suppressed from schools !
Please open to facts.


http://pagesperso-orange.fr/energies...es/ch12-71.htm
That is because the pump cavitates water which converts some of it into atomic energy. Good post and you are right, they have been around for a long time and these technologies are suppressed for military.

Funny how the military kept us enslaved and financially broke the US while the retards were claiming they were defending us.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:27 PM
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I'm not about to plough through that whole mess; I think you two deserve each other.

But if this exchange is typical, quicktool, you don't even know how to read:



Because what masrapido said was:


What does that have to do with cigarette boats? I don't know of any cigarette boats that have gone around the world....
I didn't say cigarette boats had gone around the Earth, I said his comparison was silly.

But here retard, your world just got bigger. Perhaps más estúpido can point out the imaginary sails

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Old 12-24-2009, 05:00 PM
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What a beautiful display of stupidity and arrogance.

The BREAKING rezonant frequency is so high it cannot be produced in your car, *****.
Why yes, you did make a beautiful display of stupidity and arrogance.

Here are two photos of what is inside of Meyer's injector.

Notice how four resonant cavities fit in the space of you finger? Maybe you are just too stupid to know how big a car is?

Notice the 40 prong resonator to chop up the high voltage? Notice the magnet that sits below that resonator to swirl the high voltage through the prongs to produce that frequency? Notice the laser light filters? Notice the hole in the side of the plug where processed water and the electron stream enter? Notice how big it is based on the size of the injector itself and the size of the spark plug connector?

Unlike you who has nothing but stupid to display, I can post photos and prove what I say.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:48 PM
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Keep posting. You are only making a bigger fool of yourself. Photos are not proof that the technology works. But they are proof of your stupidity.
I am not using the word stupidity in a derogatory manner. It just so happens that it is the one really good word that describes your posts.

Go on, post some more. But be careful because "they" are following you. With their antennas...from the space and from "their" secret bases on ground where "they" are playing with themselves and those supressed "technologies"...!!!

It's only a matter of time when "they" will grab you off the street and do you good...

Stock up on food...maybe "they" are trying to poison you!
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:12 PM
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5 watss laser is NOT strong enough to produce effects Meyer claims in his patent. With five watts you can only burn a hole in your empty head after a few hours of patient trying. Water molecules disintegrate on temperatures so high your 5 watts cannot produce.
I missed some of your stupid but then there was so much...

The water is not burned and I never claimed that but you are obviously too functionally illiterate to read what I wrote.

The light is used to break the O2 bond as I claimed so it can be reformed into ozone (O3).

Look inside an ozone generator - you see an ultraviolet light source on the high end models. Not exactly something new.

Troy may not be all that smart but he keeps it to the pedantic banter of a 12 year old. IMO - That makes Troy smarter than you.

BTW - That would be watts not "watss".
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:16 PM
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Keep posting. You are only making a bigger fool of yourself. Photos are not proof that the technology works. But they are proof of your stupidity.
I am not using the word stupidity in a derogatory manner. It just so happens that it is the one really good word that describes your posts.

Go on, post some more. But be careful because "they" are following you. With their antennas...from the space and from "their" secret bases on ground where "they" are playing with themselves and those supressed "technologies"...!!!

It's only a matter of time when "they" will grab you off the street and do you good...

Stock up on food...maybe "they" are trying to poison you!
This is the kind of crap that idiots devoid of integrity, post when they have been debunked and exposed.

BTW - That would be "suppressed technologies" not "supressed "technologies"...!!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:24 PM
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Bugger, I am so weak I just cannot resist when a fool gives me an opportunity.

Here's the "apparatus" that actually works, unlike your "suppressed technology":

And it works on a lot lower RADIO frequencies. This too is actually an old forgotten (meaning KNOWN) way of splitting the water. And it is simple to make and verify.

Unlike your moronic messiah Meyer. May Marx and Engels have a pity for another lost soul...

http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html

This is the simplest way to break the water with radio waves, but it is NOT overunity. The only person that MAY have achieved overunity is Dr. Kanarev,but he is not interested in selling his research any longer. However he did publish a lot of scientific papers on photosynthesis and nature's ways of breaking water in plants, if you can read and understand, even in english.

But now I am delusional...I hope you can understand...how silly of me.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:26 PM
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and for a supposedly "native" english speaker and self-declared proSpeller, you are a failure. Open word and write suPPressed, idiot.

It IS supressed, as I, the Chilean, wrote it.

Debunker...
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:54 PM
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[quote=masrapido;326908]Bugger, I am so weak I just cannot resist when a fool gives me an opportunity.

Here's the "apparatus" that actually works, unlike your "suppressed technology":

And it works on a lot lower RADIO frequencies. This too is actually an old forgotten (meaning KNOWN) way of splitting the water. And it is simple to make and verify.

Unlike your moronic messiah Meyer. May Marx and Engels have a pity for another lost soul...

http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html

Do you really think you can post a link to something that is not overunity and use that to prove that Meyer's waterfuel wasn't overunity either?

That is like saying since sailboats don't move when there is no wind, motor boats don't either. What a *****!
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:03 PM
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and for a supposedly "native" english speaker and self-declared proSpeller, you are a failure. Open word and write suPPressed, idiot.

It IS supressed, as I, the Chilean, wrote it.

Debunker...
In English, which is the language you are writing in, it is spelled "suppressed" idiot.

Why don't you just Google your "supressed: and note how you get corrected. You probably have your MS Word progrem set to a Spanish dictionary and are too stupid to know that.

Too stupid to find Google and type that in? Here, I'll post a link for you.

http://www.google.com

Nice job of trying to quickly bury that waterfuel information under your ignorance again. You are not who or what you claim.
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Old 12-25-2009, 05:58 PM
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Masrapido,
Suprimido = suppressed.
I checked 2 sources. I still got your meaning, though, which is more important.
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Old 12-25-2009, 06:06 PM
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Masrapido,
Suprimido = suppressed.
I checked 2 sources. I still got your meaning, though, which is more important.
Yep! Google translate showed me the same thing. Hence my comment - "You are not who or what you claim." That is someone with an agenda to destroy, confuse and bury the subject of waterfuel.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:06 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoluminescence

http://www.seed.slb.com/voices_article.aspx?id=25550


This suggest water electrolysis is not just a fuel production, but more likely a complex change including gravitation modification. It really looks like if fuel extracted from water was electromagnetically "pumped" from our gravitational field.

You will note that the reverse statement works as a gravitational field can be compensated by an electric field. (1928 Patent)
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:45 AM
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Masrapido,
Suprimido = suppressed.
I checked 2 sources. I still got your meaning, though, which is more important.
Hmmm...My spellchecker is set to UK english and it returns su P ressed as correct...It underlines su PP ressed with the green line (not an error, but not correct either).

In latin, where the word is coming from, supressed is written with one P. Just like in spanish, or supresso in italian. Happy being compliant with the original.

Just as usanians write color, yet it is coloUr in original english, or harbor, yet it is harboUr. Not to mention AlumiNIum...
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:00 AM
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As a service to any non-technical readers who might stumble across this discussion, I thought someone should correct a few of the more egregious scientific errors here. Not that I expect anyone to actually read this far but I hate to see such bad science go unopposed except by more bad science.

First, masrapido's errors:

1. The terms "explosion" and "implosion" have nothing to do with the lengths of chains. You can burn a long-chain molecule without getting an explosion (that's what a kerosene lamp does, for example) and you can (very easily) get an explosion by burning hydrogen.

The difference between an explosion and an implosion is that an explosion results from a center that is at much higher pressure than ambient while an implosion results from a low-pressure center.

2. You can burn long-chain molecules without producing toxic gasses.

3. I don't know for sure if anyone actually adds hydrogen to the cylinder in production diesel engines but I very much doubt it, and masrapido's account of the chemistry and the pending "implosions" is certainly wrong. Note that adding water vapor is very different from adding hydrogen. Hydrogen would act as additional fuel. Water vapor would not.

Now for quarktoo:

1. Pure hydrogen does in fact burn without fusion. This is a purely chemical reaction: hydrogen burns in the presence of oxygen creating the chemical change 2 H2 + O2 => 2 H2O. This is a highly exothermic reaction, meaning that it produces a lot of energy.

2. The second law of thermodynamics certainly does apply to an open system. It applies to any reaction at all. The second law basically states that whenever work is done, the entropy of the universe never decreases. Thermodynamics is usually studied in closed systems because in a closed system things like energy change and entropy change can be measured, but the theory applies in general.

What I think Quarktoo is trying to say is that the second law does not apply to every part of the universe, it only applies to the universe as a whole. It is possible to decrease entropy in one part of the universe so long as entropy in the universe as a whole increases.

3. Quarktoo's device cannot give free energy. He is not using water as a fuel, but as a source from which to make fuel. Making fuel from water is possible, but breaking the bonds of water to get hydrogen and oxygen takes just as much energy as you get back by recombining them. Even if the process is 100% efficient at making fuel and 100% efficient at using fuel (nothing is really 100% efficient) then he has to use all of the energy he gets from the fuel to make more fuel. There is no energy left over to do any work.
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