CPP desapear from recreational boats Who gets the benefit of the crime ?

[kistinie]

Originally Posted by TollyWally

That's not thread drift Thats a damn good question.

Bearing for a light 20 Kw CPP ?
But it is a good question !
A drawing or a picture will speak ...if you have..

Originally Posted by singleprop

As far as I know a thrust bearing cannot be installed in a traditional way on a CPP because of the hollow shaft and push/pull rod. Therefore, the thrust bearing must be installed in the gear itself (such as on the SABB 65E).
Doesn't this mean that the gearbox must be hard mounted/boltet onto the engine bed to absorbe the thrust.. and that a soft coupling is required between the gear and the engine (allowing the engine to be soft mounted)?
Sorry for the thread drift

I agree with Tolly thats not a drift.
But first to say: "mydauphin" was not asking for a thrust bearing for CPP! He has a conventional installation (as far as I understood from his former posts on other threads).
But CPP or shaft and gear, we do not need a thrust bearing at the usual level of power we install. The Gearbox handles the load. A flexible coupling should be installed between shaft and gearb. (Even a CPP comes with a "gearbox" ,like the mentioned Sabb).
The "soft" mounting of our engines is not very soft and handles the load with ease if of the right size. I said above, I install 12cyl, 22ltr. MAN of 1700hp without having a thrust bearing.

Regards
Richard

[mydauphin]

Yes it is a conventional install, no cpp. I can't afford not one but two.

The reason for thrust block is to take pressure off cv joints so they will last longer. The CV joints help with alignment issues.

Originally Posted by mydauphin

Yes it is a conventional install, no cpp. I can't afford not one but two.

The reason for thrust block is to take pressure off cv joints so they will last longer. The CV joints help with alignment issues.

Fot that reason the Bullflex is good. Or do you point to a CV of these:

CV Curriculum Vitae
CV Cove (street abbreviation)
CV Constant Velocity
CV Cape Verde (Country)
CV Coventry (postcode, United Kingdom)
CV Cultivar
CV Coefficient of Variation
CV Cablevisión (Argentina)
CV Commercial Vehicle
CV Control Valve
CV Composite Video
CV Convair (aircraft manufacturer)
CV Cross Validation
CV Computer Video (electronic representation of the PANTONE colors)
CV Convenience Store
CV Crown Victoria (Ford Motor Company autombile model)
CV Constant Voltage
CV Castlevania (game)
CV Check Valve
CV Contingent Valuation (method for measuring compensatory restoration of natural resources)
CV Clear View
CV Computer Virus
CV Control Voltage (music synthesis)
CV Conduction Velocity
CV Castro Valley (California)
CV Cardio-Vascular
CV Color Vision
CV Cash Value
CV Consonant Vowel
CV Control Volume
CV Configuration Variable (used in digital command and control of model railroads)
CV Cost Variance
CV Cargo Van
CV Cataclysmic Variable
CV Calorific Value
CV Coachella Valley (California)
CV Commanditaire Vennootschap (Dutch: Limited Partnership)
CV Courvoisier (cognac)
CV Code Violations
CV Count Value
CV Republic of Cape Verde
CV Combat Vehicle
CV Vice Commander (USAF)
CV ComputerVision (CAD/CAM software company)
CV Capacitance-Voltage (measurements)
CV Carrier Variant (aircraft with modifications to permit operations to/from aircraft carriers)
CV Coding Violation (telecommunications)
CV Commercial Venture
CV Chrome Vanadium (steel)
CV Critical Vulnerability
CV Cleaning Validation
CV Cervical Vertebrae
CV Capital Variable (Spanish business entity)
CV Cheval Vapeur (French: horsepower)
CV Command Vehicle
CV Casino Vérité (gaming software)
CV Character Voice
CV Cultivated Variety (botany)
CV Conventional Vehicle
CV Cavalli Vapore (Italian: horsepower)
CV Choking Victim
CV Catalog Value
CV Computer Validation
CV Compliance Verification
CV Central Vermont Railway
CV Campus Village
CV Ciudad Vieja (Guatemala city)
CV Cross of Valour (Canadian decoration equivalent of the George Cross, second highest bravery decoration after the VC)
CV Continuous Vulcanization
CV Cartell-Verband (Burschenschaft mit Katholisch-konservativen werten)
CV Multi-purpose aircraft carrier (US Navy ship type)
CV Child Version (psychological testing)
CV Cyclic Voltametry
CV Caballo Vapor (Spanish)
CV Central Version
Cv Coefficient of Flow (fluid flow calculations)
CV Cargo Variant
CV Collection Voucher
CV Concordant Version (translation of the New Testament by A.E. Knoch)
CV Common Ventricle
CV Complete Adventurer (roleplaying games, Dungeons & Dragons)
CV Contribution Value
CV Circus Voltaire (pinball game)
CV Conceptual Value (marketing)
CV Crossbone Vanguard (anime)
CV Cavite Varsitarian
CV Schedule V Controlled Substance (USA)
CV Colossus Voulge (Diablo II gaming)
CV Ceiling Void (structural drawings)
CV Cranioventral (anatomy)
CV Chemical Vocabulary
CV Challenge Valley (activity, Camp Yawgoog, BSA)
CV Container Vacuum
CV Cryoglobulinemia Vasculitis
CV Carrier Volplane (Fixed Wing)
CV Carrier, General Purpose (US Navy)
CV Clandestine Vulnerability
CV Cache Verification
CV Chariot Ventures, LLC (Hong Kong)
CV Control Vertices Curve (form of NURBS)
CV Cras Ves'pere (tomorrow evening)

????
The red one is my personal favorite, I doubt a thrust bearing would be a good idea though.

Regards
Richard

[mydauphin]

HA HA Apex...

CV .... Constant velocity joint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-velocity_joint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...e_Cardan_Shaft

So, I guessed right, the Bullflex is what you need (flex, not sh.t)!

[mydauphin]

Vetus Bullflex can not handle bigger shafts, angle larger than 2 degree and still transmits thrust to transmission. I don't want that. What I am looking for is closer to Python drive or Aquadrive.

[kistinie]

Sweet gentlemens, please open a new thread for bearing

Here it is for CPP that are not available for leisure boat

By the way, always no technical description for the only offer i received
For the moment a price, just one number...
Incredible !
After all i will finish to keep my money and find another solution

The title and content of this thread are so senseless, we could´nt go offtopic if we talk about potatoe harvest.

And mydauphin, 2° means half of your engine is already besides the boat!

[kistinie]

Originally Posted by apex1

The title and content of this thread are so senseless, we could´nt go offtopic if we talk about potatoe harvest.
boat!

potatoe harvest ? Are you talking of you ?

I think more and more that CPP are unavailable to consumers for the same reason than Gillier PANTONE Water motors.

To press much better the lemons

[mydauphin]

Apex, this thread is misaligned... It needs a universal cardan shaft...


kistinie, Hybrid corsair .... Jet airplanes are unavailable for consumers, so are fancy cars, jet packs, helicopters and most yachts. I am no upset that new diesels engines cost more than I make in a year. I buy used. It is a yacht and not everyone can just write a check. 99.99% of the people that work on boats, design then and are on this board can't afford everything they want.

Grow up, or move to a country that will give you free boat parts.

[Landlubber]

Have a look here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQgm3GwaFs

http://www.thompsoncouplings.com/ind...tpage&Itemid=1

[mydauphin]

Thanks Land,

I don't have problem with joint, I Have this...
I need thrust block to take force because Joints won't.
Something like a Arneson Surface Drive has what I am talking about inside, so does and inboard transmission or the leg of an outdrive.

[Landlubber]

Absolutely, all CV, Cardan shaft etc etc need a thrust block installed.