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Old 08-27-2009, 04:59 AM
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Jacques Juan propellers

What do you think about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QE3Q0PbOWA

The BPT Concept, developed by the french Jacques Juan, is a patented geometry for marine propellers said to reach very high efficiencies.

Does someone have more information on this man and his propellers?

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Old 08-27-2009, 05:13 AM
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From the pic's it seems that he is using some kind of tip winglets, which in itself is not new; they are known to give an improvement over conventional tips in certain operating conditions. BUT: the improvements refer to what original levels? Are the original props really optimum for the job? I want hard facts before I believe in drydock tales!
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:17 PM
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Absolutely. Difficult to believe such claims, that's why I'm wondering if somebody has more info.

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Old 08-27-2009, 07:32 PM
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If he has really managed to re-invent the winglets, it's amazing how he did it by starting from some completely wrong premises...

Citing just few claims from the video:
"A large part of the water is flung outward through centrifugal forces and (is) lost for the propulsion.
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The water rebounces off the hull, developing vibrations... (etc)"


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Old 08-27-2009, 08:07 PM
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Yes, see what you mean.

"42%" savings...compared to what?

"3 times less fuel"...than what....?...why not use his prop on the boats that use 3 times more fuel for a proper qualitative test?

"noticed 20%" savings....i notice many things, does this make it qualitative to be factual?

again all very anecdotal. And as you say beackmo, nothing new, re cupping/winglets.

I did like the look of the moules mariniere though
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:35 AM
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I think he confounds efficiency with slip. When he talks 90% efficiency I think he's talking about a 10% slip, not about the propeller performance.

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Old 08-28-2009, 04:34 AM
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I think he confounds efficiency with slip. When he talks 90% efficiency I think he's talking about a 10% slip, not about the propeller performance.
That's what he says in the video, I believe.
He defines "efficiency" as the "ratio between the real speed of the boat and the theoretical speed of the propeller", confounding it with the slip.
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What do you think about this bionic propeller from EveLogics GmbH in Berlin?
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