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Old 01-11-2011, 08:00 PM
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Help with prop; major difference in experts

Hello. I am repowering my 32' cruiser (planing hull) with twin Mercruiser 5.0 MPI 260hp (4800 rpm) with Bravo 2 outdrives with a 2.2 ratio. Design displacement is 14,000 lbs.

Using the most excellent Propeller Handbook by Dave Gerr and using the "Crouch's Propeller Method" I get an ideal prop of 19" dia x 20.6" pitch. This is assuming Gerr's suggested 24% slip (is this too much?)

The online Mercruiser Prop Selector selects both 17.5 x 23 or 19.5 x 22.5

The Castle Marine propeller software says to use a 19 x 16.4, but adds that it is using a calculated 15% slip.

Wow. A lot of answers out there. Are there any experts here that could shed some light on this? I gues if I get no more input I would probably pick 19 x 21 to start.

Thanks for any input - Bruce
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:08 AM
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Most shops will let you try out a set of props, knowing you'll want to pull the recommended RPM. Try the 19.5 x 21 and see what it pulls. Prop shops know there's a fair bit of black magic to prop selection and have a good bit of latitude in this regard.
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:43 AM
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Who Knows ? I would suspect that the majority of boats are operating the wrong size, pitch prop.
Most of the yachts Ive operated over the past thirty years have used variable pitch propellers or Controllable pitch propellors. part of the commissioning regime for these props is to determine, then set the maximum allowable pitch of the propeller. We do this by measuring the exhaust temp. Engine rpms are not reliable...is your tachometer correct...is your throttle adjusted to hit its stops ? can your engine installation achieve full rpm ?
If possible borrow an exhaust temperature pyrometer from a marine engineering , engine shop then physically test your chosen prop size against maximum exhaust temp. Increase the prop size until optimum exhaust temp is achieved.


A good description of the technique is found here

http://www.kastenmarine.com/CPprops.htm
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:18 AM
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without knowing too much of your hull and if your figures are correct...you should get around 26-27knots.
At this speed...and your engine HP and ratio...something around 18/19" diameter with a 18/19" pitch. Start with this ball park..and either go up or down in pitch...depending what your engine is doing!
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Old 01-12-2011, 02:26 PM
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Thanks all, I do appreciate the responses. Hope I can return the favor some day.

Bruce
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Old 01-12-2011, 02:57 PM
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21 seems quite high for the boat. In that size range 17-19 is more common. Go to the local marina and check out similar boats.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:14 AM
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The real place to start would be to have the boat weighed in as used condition.

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Old 01-19-2011, 08:00 AM
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The Difference between Crouchs calc. and Castle Marine is 4in of Pitch.(20 vrs 16) Both have 19 in Dia.

Engine manf' typically rate their engines HP a little High, plus your Boat could very well be Heavier.

I would start with the 19 x 16,s. If your engines over rev, Increase Pitch etc.

Increasing Dia should only be necessary to decrease slip, if boat is heavier
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:48 AM
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blade rake gives bow up or stern up by wide or centered thrust
dont think that was handled in the proppellor handbook
found out about this recently, not sure bravo offers this choice
and dont know effects on efficiency etc but i find it interesting
http://www.propline.com/Propeller-Ge...erminology.htm
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:56 PM
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Bruce Mercury offers a 18.5 x 19 alum. Based on the sze of the boat It should be close.The only way to no for sure is load the boat and run WOT Should be around 4800-5200
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