Highly Functional, Efficient, and Stylish Design for NA or Yard

[TealTiger]

After years of studying and sketching interiors, I've finally come up with something I thought was impossible: an interior without significant compromise for a cruising sailboat of about 45'. The arrangement is highly functional, efficient, and stylish; not revolutionary, but evolutionary. Some of the highlights are:
- galley sink, head sink, helm, master berth, stove, and toilet within a few feet of the metacentre
-excellent traffic flow
-stylish and dramatic design aspects (that remain logical and efficient)

I know there's generally not much money in yacht design, but I wonder if there is a way to capitalize on this design. Maybe a NA or a yard would be interested. I'd love to see it made and make a small amount of money.

What do you think? Any comment or questions would be welcome. Thank you for you time and consideration.

[TeddyDiver]

Well... I'm afraid you got to show us something "solid" to get some meaningfull response.

[TealTiger]

What kind of 'solid' do you mean/want TD?

[yipster]

all that within a few feet of the metacentre we like to see
without you giving the lay-out away offcourse

[TealTiger]

I'm so proud of it I really would like to but giving away a little would give away a lot. I'll say, that I can no longer look at any mono-hulled cruisers with much interest.

Any idea who might be interested?

[Hunter25]

If the concept is this revolutionary, there are a few methods of protecting your idea but I do not think you have created something new but possibly something you have not seen before. Over and over I have seen that new ideas in yacht design are rehashings of old ideas in which you deserve no protection without substantial justification.

"an interior without significant compromise" You are not serious. "not revolutionary, but evolutionary." Take this to the patent office. Because you havn't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been done - and you are stating acknowledgment of this by calling it "evolutionary".
Rap stars can have a grill installed and shout absolute ****, movie actors can play a part nobody else will, and because they fit the part (Sean Penn - Milk) have money thrown at them. You? You are going to need to convince the right design company that you are indespensible, then work your butt off on MANY designs, because your ONE EARTH-SHATTERING IDEA will not bring the paparazzi.
If your idea does turn out to be amazing, posting it here will be proof of your time of authorship. Go ahead and post it here, and the design experts will help you refine it.
Is the head (or the foot) of the master berth within a few feet of the toilet and galley stove? - Sounds perfect!

[gonzo]

As long as you put a copyright logo on it, it is not public domain. However, a percentage of change will make it useable by anyone. That will happen anyway if it gets built. You could get an industrial design patent, but I doubt there is enough to warrant one. We are naturally skeptical, because too many people reinvent the wheel.

[TealTiger]

I certainly agree with you in principle, H25; 'there is little new under the sun'.

That's partly why I wrote, "not revolutionary, but evolutionary". The Coutach is a good example. Mid engines weren't new and transmissions sticking out between the seats weren't new either, but no one put them together before.

I'm not too concerned about protection, possibly naively, just finding someone interested. Having said that, I wouldbe interested in any thoughts you're willing to share H25.

Anybody have thoughts on how to shop this around or who might be interested?

[TealTiger]

Hi Mark and Gonzo,

Saw your posts after my last one. I gather neither of you are lawyers based on your advise but I appreciate the input. Gonzo, you right in advising that anyone could 'copy' it with little modification. That's why a *good* IP lawyer will advise you look for a cheaper and simpler way first. Even if the idea could be protected, it wouldn't be cost effective to defend it and most would be aware of that. I just want to find someone interested, make a simple agreement, and if they use it they'll pay an amount that would be inconsequential to the cost of the boat. Most business really boils down to personal relationships and trust anyway.

Mark, do you know your post could come across as somewhat rude? I'm sure it wasn't intentional, so I'll clarify some things for you: I never said it hasn't been done but it isn't among the 2250 designs in Mauch's or the hundreds of other designs I've seen, and that's good enough for me. I don't believe I'll need to convince anyone that I'm indispensable (I'm not) or work on many designs, because I'm not in this for career or ego. My one idea is, unfortunately, not earth shattering. Finally, thank you for the kind offer to help me refine it, but I don't believe the possibility for significant improvement is likely enough to outweigh the risk of following your legal advice.

[Hunter25]

The point I think being missed is you can't get a reasonable hit without substantial bait. Your teaser introduction just is not going to do for most. Protection as you have hinted is the ability to defend, so in light of your intention not to, possibly resource driven what is the point of the cloak and dagger stuff. Either you have the intention to defend at which the point is moot or you need to offer considerably more then a few words about a possibly new innovation, revelation or other interior insight. A simple pencil sketch of poor resolution would go a long way to entice potential interest. My point is I don't think anyone will take your few casual comments seriously without some sort of drawing.

[TealTiger]

Thanks for the attempt to clarify H25. I'm curious though; Are you sure I've missed that point? And what makes you (and others?) think I'm 'teasing'? I don't believe I've given any indication that I'm looking for anyone's validation. In fact, I've never expected to deal directly with anyone in this forum. The 'cloak and dagger' is, as you said, because of 'my intention not to defend'. As such, and as I've said, I believe it's best done with a simple agreement and trust. No one on online (or offline FYI) has identified himself or herself as being such a person. Just think about it for a moment; no one serious would even want me to disclose it in a pubic forum.


Thank you all, it's been an interesting and informative experience for me.

[Hunter25]

If you approached each here (http://www.boatdesign.net/directory/Designers/), you would have a similar response without offering a sketch. A commonly used, simple non-disclosure agreement would help assist your insecurities.

[HakimKlunker]

Originally Posted by TealTiger

Any idea who might be interested?

No one. Would YOU buy a plastic bag with the seller's promise that there is a treasure inside?

I am afraid that you'll have to build it yourself.