Hull-Speed increased by Maritime Surface-Effect

[StianM]

Originally Posted by AmnonMikeCohen

You are not looking at Artistic or Science Fiction pictures, but at real pictures of a bot without wake which does not plow through the water but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.

To be honest I have no idea what I see in those pictures.
it could be a drawing on a napkin for all I know since it's so tiny and bad quality.

I could easily reproduce those pictures.
1. run a boat at 20kn and have my girlfriend take a picture of me driving by the beach with her 5 year old camera phone.
2. run the same boat at 30kn having my picture taken with the same crap camera.

Sometime people come with a bible on my door telling me about internal life and so on while holding the prof in the hand. My 89yo grandmother only wanted to be left to rest and I gues myself will the same one day so I rather rotten than suffer a internal life and a 2000yo story book is not considered prof for me so I ask them to get lost.
What I do believe in is electricity since I felt the 230vac quite good here the other day, no way denying that.

So why do I start talking this nonsense? Did anyone feel enlighten by reading my post? Can't be worse than any other post in this thread can it?

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Here are my answers, added into your original questions

Originally Posted by daiquiri

Amnon, I'd just like to know the following. You claim that your idea has been verified and tested. Actually, you said that you have some of your devices ready for installation and delivery.
It means that you can answer these questions without endangering your intellectual property rights:
1) is your invention related to some innovative hull form, propulsion, energy source, structural materials or a combination of these?
The invention is a new science, and it includes a new advanced hull form, but the larger market is its FINS add-on product line to all existing watercrafts. While its benefits are improved performance and economy and few more commercial benefits, it is not a new propulsion or energy or powering or material, but is a structural addition and newer design.
2) what improvements have you recorded during your tests - is it boat's maximum velocity, range, fuel consumption, seakeeping or a combination of these?
In a tow-tank test, we found 20.6% increased speed for a displacement ship, and on open water we have found 7% increased speed for planning Hulls; both have improved sea-keeping and performance plus economic gains, and at my website I list 10 of the main commercial benefits the invention adds to a watercraft.
3) can you quantify the improvements recorded - i.e. the percentual increase in speed, or decrease in fuel consumption, or decrease in the emission of poluting gases, or else?
Please see prior answers, and yes, there are more options in the design as to the beneficial ecologic advantages of the invention by way of improving the aquatic environment and reducing the negative impacts of existing boating. I did not add these to my website, as investors and partners are seldom interested in these positive benefits but are concerned with any negative impacts of new inventions they invest in.
4) can you quantify, even approximately, the cost for the production of your device?
I have posted price-range of product for consumers, and my business plan shows how production can be made very profitable by employing sub-contractors' manufacturing capabilities, as well as share good profit with our licensed installers worldwide, while delivering very good value to the consumer and improving the value of the upgraded watercraft. My answer here is still general as this financial and strategic information are part of our confidential information.

As you can see, I'm asking you things which doesn't require a disclosure of any physical principle or constructive details of your invention - so there is no possibility for your idea to be copied by someone, and you are also safe from any risks related to patent infringements.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Originally Posted by StianM

To be honest I have no idea what I see in those pictures.
it could be a drawing on a napkin for all I know since it's so tiny and bad quality.

I could easily reproduce those pictures.
1. run a boat at 20kn and have my girlfriend take a picture of me driving by the beach with her 5 year old camera phone.
2. run the same boat at 30kn having my picture taken with the same crap camera.

Sometime people come with a bible on my door telling me about internal life and so on while holding the prof in the hand. My 89yo grandmother only wanted to be left to rest and I gues myself will the same one day so I rather rotten than suffer a internal life and a 2000yo story book is not considered prof for me so I ask them to get lost.
What I do believe in is electricity since I felt the 230vac quite good here the other day, no way denying that.

So why do I start talking this nonsense? Did anyone feel enlighten by reading my post? Can't be worse than any other post in this thread can it?

But my sought investor or partner will have the experience of flying and to be a believer in what I show in pictures you think you can produce and my words I assume you can not believe in or see as truth.
It is true, that many here have such less happy life then I have, as an honest and successful inventor and as a good human-being - and this has caused me some sorrow in the past, but I am not expecting much trust from this readership, although I can think of 3 good replies from more then 30 bad ones, as well as hundreds or thousands of readers who never even seen or never bothered to share what they think about new advanced technologies in such old industry which claims it has already developed all that can be developed.

I hope your recovery from the shock has made you stronger and more careful, as it is not much fun and can actually kill - so you know, you are lucky, and hope you have thanked your creator...

[StianM]

Originally Posted by AmnonMikeCohen

and hope you have thanked your creator...

I thanked my mom and dad many times. They could after all just let me become a wet stain on the sheets.

But back to your GREAT invention.
Air filled rubber tires did not use 10 years from experimental stage and into comercial use even the benefitt from solid rubber was not as great as your claimed benefits ower regular boats, but your still strugling alone with it.

For me and other it apear your selling snake oil and for good reasons.
There is some talk about fins and water lubrication but to my knowledge both foils and lubrication by air and water is done 1/2 century ago.

To be quite honest I would recomend any investor of puting he's money in a swiss or cayman bank long befour investing in your project and I would no feel sorry for you a single second.

You provide no info with value and you then go and call everybody else idiots for not beliving in you.

I got a diesel engine in my garadge that have 60% efficency and I will lett you my friend have it for only 100000USD. it has some now cylinder coating tecnolegy and you have my word for it that it works. I can prove it by showing you a picture of a old cummings.

[Ad Hoc]

"...by marine propulsion .."
So you mean by a propeller or waterjet of sorts?

"....but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.."
Ahh...so it is a foil assisted vessel.

[StianM]

Originally Posted by Ad Hoc

"....but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.."
Ahh...so it is a foil assisted vessel.

I did see some tests a few years ago in a boat magazine here.
It did not work weel on full speed since the foil lost the low preshure over the foil once it came too close to the surface.

[Ad Hoc]

StianM

Yes, foils work best at a constant depth. Smaller vessel especially monohulls this is hard to 'control', hence the claims on larger more 'stable' vessels do not translate well. On smaller catamarans though it is fine, but the foil needs to be deeper than normal (which can be a show stopper on small vessels), as on a vessel i know in the US works very well with foil assistance.

[masalai]

Or do the foils behave like wings and the vessel floats on air (like a plane) in surface effect mode?

[StianM]

Originally Posted by Ad Hoc

StianM

Yes, foils work best at a constant depth. Smaller vessel especially monohulls this is hard to 'control', hence the claims on larger more 'stable' vessels do not translate well. On smaller catamarans though it is fine, but the foil needs to be deeper than normal (which can be a show stopper on small vessels), as on a vessel i know in the US works very well with foil assistance.

I think they experienced a bumpy ride. boat was lifted by the foil and once up the pressure over the foil is lost and it sinks, builds up and rise and so on. Could probably work well if microprocessor controlled so the pitch is reduced when pressure over the foil rise.

[Ad Hoc]

"...boat was lifted by the foil and once up the pressure over the foil is lost and it sinks.."
That's why i was saying to prevent this, the foil needs to be deeper than 'usual' when static. Not everyone can accommodate this compromise.

Originally Posted by AmnonMikeCohen

But my sought investor or partner will have the experience of flying and to be a believer in what I show in pictures you think you can produce and my words I assume you can not believe in or see as truth.
It is true, that many here have such less happy life then I have, as an honest and successful inventor and as a good human-being - and this has caused me some sorrow in the past, but I am not expecting much trust from this readership, although I can think of 3 good replies from more then 30 bad ones, as well as hundreds or thousands of readers who never even seen or never bothered to share what they think about new advanced technologies in such old industry which claims it has already developed all that can be developed.

I hope your recovery from the shock has made you stronger and more careful, as it is not much fun and can actually kill - so you know, you are lucky, and hope you have thanked your creator...

Congratulations Mr. President! (of the superior hulls inc.)
it is always nice to hear that someone has a good life. Especially if he otherwise has nothing to provide than talking in platitudes.