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Old 12-01-2010, 12:43 PM
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Real Mahogany or NOT

We have designed a classic sportster and the finish of the boat must be mahogany look alike......but no wood to be used.
Well we have done it and the mahogany boat was released from the mold and one cannot see the difference whether the wood finish is real or not.
Trade secrets.....
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:32 PM
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You have certainly got the color right. Nice looking..........................
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:35 PM
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Mahogany has several unique features that make it nearly imposable to duplicate and no man made rendition will compete with real mahogany, in spite of your claims. Interestingly enough, your supplied images are so small that close examination to see if it actually looks like mahogany can't be preformed. How convenient of you. Even high resolution photos of mahogany will not look like real mahogany in 3D, because mahogany dramatically changes color as the light reflects off the silica. So, post a moderately large image, that can be closely examined and see how well it stands actual scrutiny. As to the color, that what mahogany looks like when it's stained, which to many is just a way to ruin the look of the wood.
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Hackercraft in Florida was making that about seventeen years ago. From a distance they looked like mahogany.
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Old 12-01-2010, 07:37 PM
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My dress shoes from a distance look like mahogany . . .
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:01 PM
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Can it be repaired?
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:26 PM
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Wanna trade Par? Cause up close or from a distance, mine look like dung!
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:45 PM
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I have dung looking ones too, try someone else . . .
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:30 PM
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Knd,

Its a hard bunch here. Gonzo is right.

Have you heard of Chromaveil?

http://www.fibreglast.com/product/Wa...004/Chromaveil

Good luck in your venture

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Old 12-01-2010, 10:50 PM
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Fibreglast's products are interesting, but it's easy to see the "step and repeat" pattern in most of them. They are very effective on counter tops and in places where no one knows wood very well. Printed veils have been used before, including replacement patches designed specifically to repair the exact sections damaged (read really difficult to align). I've never seen a 2 dimensional product produce the refractive qualities of certain woods, such as mahogany, teak and several other species.

I too should bid them good luck with their endeavors, now that I've spanked their idea firmly.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:13 AM
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I'm sure they can fool most of the buying public that also buys photgraphic wood finishes in home furniture and wall paneling. Eric Sponberg also designed a similar runabout a few years ago. I asked him how it would be repaired and, as I remember, the answer was that it would go back to the builder for a redo. No knowledgeable wood person would be fooled by such a material though.

It comes down to honesty in the materials used. Plastic is fine as long as it is labeled as plastic and not fake something else. Where the line is drawn here is a personal thing. Most people will accept some level of fakery. Think Hardieboard as home siding which is much more durable and lower maintenance than the real thing. I draw the line at stucco foam stone architectural details and photographic plastic overlays in boats. Others will draw the line at some other level.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:09 PM
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Looks like a very Bristol Watercraft. I could sell them to people on Golden Pond quite sucessfully.





"My dress shoes from a distance look like mahogany"

They have a Cure for that.

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Old 12-02-2010, 07:51 PM
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It looks like it was carved from a solid block of wood. Real or not, it looks nice.

Depending on what look you're going for, it's almost too perfect though. It's obvious that it's not wood because of the lack of seams. The appeal is going to be to the crowd that sees their boat as an extension of their manhood, but fortunately this is a pretty lucrative demographic. It will defiantly turn heads and therefore will probably sell well.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:31 PM
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Everything looks good at 72 DPI . . .
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