Pirate Mercs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-8NHfAYEK8

Here is another Norvegian but this has jets. They sure know how to build a boat.

http://commercial.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=103048

 

This is the initial post I posted here.
Could somebody tell me what was wrong with it?
Do you see something so offensive I deserved the fury of everybody.
Is that a forum or just I have to follow the trend like a sheep.
I think I had a good point. But it escaladed negatively because of some members didn't like it. Sorry.
Marco1 I apreciate your advise, thank you.
I will take it in consideration.
Cheers
Daniel

 

A few hundred years ago merchantmen routinely were armed and often travelled in convoy for mutual support; East Indiamen in particular were prepared to fight off pirates and privateers and tried to look like Royal Navy vessels.

An occasional dodge used by heavily-armed privateers of the period hired to accompany convoys through "national waters" in order to evade national laws was to carry a small cargo, there being no law limiting the amount paid for such a service by a boat that just happens to be armed to the teeth.

Not so sure about modern laws of course; are there laws that limit one's ability to self-defend?

Sheesh, Mark, watch the language. Me, levelheaded? I will never live this down!

 

I did not say that boat is bad!!! The opposite........

It is just a bad choice.
You can NOT build in sufficient tankage. You can NOT make it a seagoing vessel. You can NOT easily overhaul the engines to deliver a 24/7 service without paying for a pair of new ones.

Nobody buys a Porsche when transporting fridges is the task.
Horses for races..........
This one is a dead horse, at least for such a enterprise.

There are many other vessels on the market which would fit better.
A 60´boat btw. is nothing but a bad joke for such application. 110´ and upwards is the range to look for.

Can you imagine what it would mean to follow a container vessel at 24 knots in a 3 meter sea? 60ft yes?

And can you imagine what it means to cover a area of about 800 by 350 nautical miles (800nm is Salalah to Djibouti), with a range of 250, like the toys you posted?

Terry:

unfortunately yes. Not so much in exterritorial waters, but we all have to come back to port once.

Regards
Richard

 

This is what they would need to do a proper business and survive the first trip.

http://commercial.apolloduck.com/display.phtml?aid=120710

 

Depends on a how hot the engine was when you ran it and how fast you ran it
If you had been on the highway, stopped, filled with petrol and then immediately went back out on the highway, your likely to burn off the pistons before the engine dies. If the engine was not up to operating temp yet and you were just driving in town probably nothing would be all that screwed up other than you might loose the fuel pump. I got lucky and only needed to flush the system and replace all the filters, but it was still a whopping pain in the ***.

c

Ild love to see these guys make this thing work for them
its a viable need and they have the experience
what they are looking for is just the right boat

B

 

What will work?

I have considered applying for a security position on one of the other company boats, or even better, a logistical position with their company. But the idea is to go to sea with friends I already know, trust, and have served with. As this project progresses one of us may very well sign on for 2 or 3 months. So as things stand we need a boat with a range of 1500 to 2000 miles at a cruising speed of 27 knots. Our objective is to find the most inexpensive solution to the problem of piracy out of Somalia. Here is a link to the McArthur, Blackwater's new 183ft boat. http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/09/mac500x312.jpg This is what unlimited resources after receiving fat cat defense contracts will get you. We do not have their resources. None of us are rich men. So what kind of boat can accomplish the mission? I am trying to write a business proposal so I can shop for a loan. I will not have millions but I should be able to borrow a million or at least half of one. I liked those Norwegian boats but there is no way those things could have the range needed not to mention the video had them operating in smooth water. I would think that things would be different in rough watter so something in that class wouldn't work. Also, we would probably get arrested trying to take that into most ports, and we would not be able to get more shells for the big guns or rockets. The question keeps coming up of how we plan to get automatic weapons into various ports. I know that escorting companies are carrying automatic weapons; figuring how to do it is a job for lawyers. I also know the country of Djibouti is renting automatic weapons to security companies for use against pirates. Once I get the logistics figured out and I am sure this idea is practical, I am going to spend a lot of money on hiring an international maritime lawyer to work out the details. My thought was to procure the parts needed to make our belt fed weapons semi-automatic and converting them before crossing into territorial waters. After crossing back into international waters we could change over to fully automatic. I don't care if the guns jam after every shot in semi-automatic mode as long as they are legal. Any thoughts on this idea? I haven't had a chance to talk to an armorer or a gun smith about it yet.

 

I told you to get your facts right or you will start arguments for nothing --signed Frosty.


Your attention to what people actually say is pathetic, you don't read the post and twist it. This is not the first time you have done this.

Twisting the question then answering is of no use to any one, Its just waisting peoples time.

For this I deducted points, is that clear, I deducted points.


You can not give neg points or pos points twice within a time period---

Some one else must have made a deduction from you --surprised?

Following me round with your insulting silly rantings is not becoming of a professional, or of a 65 year old man but more of a child.

Now go away and reconsider your behavior.

 

Apex1, I looked at that add and their top speed is listed as 28 knots with a cruising speed of 18 knots. Also it is not that much bigger then the boat I was looking at and should have similar range. I think the guys doing these escort missions currently are eater only escorting smaller craft or are having the cargo ships slow down to keep up with them.

 

Cargo/container ships have a tight schedule, they have to arrive on time, asking them to slow down through a pirated area may not be acceptable.

How far do you need to escort the ship?

 

What about speed. How much would it cost to go cruising at 25 miles with such ship?

 

I think we may need to go 1500 Miles. This is the boat I was originaly looking at. http://commercial.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=108835

 

How do you know that one will do the 25 knots cruising you need?
Do you know the state of the engine?

 

http://commercial.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=21364

This seems to be purpose built.

 

Marco1 that would be perfect if we could possibly afford it. If I had a buisness loan for a million dolars that would probably not be enough. Also the hull is alluminum and I doubt they are using a magnisium composite that will stop small arms fire. We are going to have to make do with an older preused boat. This service has to be affordable, otherwise it is not going to work.