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I think they could remodel a little and make room for carrying additional fuel ( that boat seems fast enough to me )
which could be held in 55 gallon drums stowed bellow in the hull and pumped into the tanks while underway. 37 drums would give them an additional ~2000 gallons. Even with no real new tanks installed they could surely stash 37 barrels in a 100' boat somewhere. probably more like two or three times that number if they were willing eat and sleep on barrels

 

No you mistaken I threaten Frosty openly, ok.
Make their heads "pop" cool! Yes I have a problem with that. If you don't, you have a problem.
Gentleman? please the best way to kill is gentlemany?
MY WARLIKE? Are you complitly delusional. READ THE THREAD. AND RE-READ IT AGAIN until you will have the light comming in your head.
And please you can state my name when you talk about me.
Because contrary to your friend Frosty, I have a name. The coward is well hidden.

Cheers
Daniel

 

Bos, I won't say that I've never done it (I have) but it is less than optimum to store fuel in barrels. I know that they can be secured, and I know that they will be careful and a little spilled diesel can be cleaned up but turning a valve is really what they will want to do. The boat isn't as big as one would think - it likely has less interior space than the wooden one you have shown, barrels can crush when bound, or hold there own when full and crush enough to loosen straps when empty. Suffice to say that I just don't believe it to be very seamanlike.
To give an idea about the shape of the engines, an equivalent ONE of those new is probably about the asking price of this entire vessel. I would expect them to be tired.
I don't agree with Richard on the refueling. We do it in Alaska all the time - the trampers and tenders have a stock of diesel for this purpose and boats are filled every day with not much more than a long hose with a valve at the end. Navies do it all the time. I know it's not how they do it at Alyeska

but the fact remains that it can be done. A ship would not be willing to stop, even if they had diesel.

 

Frosty (and AK) was the most level-headed one here! You are WAY out of line.
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/4/sniper-kills-terroist-in-afganistan-481279.html

 

Mark I referred to the average commercial vessel going through the Suez canal.
None of them has the equipment to refuel at full speed in some seastate! A hose and handpump might be nice from coaster to trawler in calm waters, but be sure NO general cargo or container master will slow down to 5kn for refuelling his escort!

The Burmester boat is just not a seagoing vessel, thats all. There IS no space for sufficient additional tankage.
And your concerns about the condition of these engines are for sure right.
The boat is out of professional care for decades now. The engines are gone.

Regards
Richard

 

One of these guys is a top notch professional diesel mechanic. My take is he could have those things apart and back together with new rings and bearings in no time, hone down the cylinders and the works, line bore if it needed it. They got a mechanic what they need to be doing is working on the right boat.
So lets find em one, thats what I was hoping for when I started this thread. The idea is a good one and the job needs to be done.
B

when my other buddy put gas in the diesel this guy is the one I consulted on how to clean it out and what kind of damage I could expect.

 

Richard, we are on the same page.
Boston, be careful. Parts for those MANS (MTUs?) are going to be exorbitant. I'm not saying it can't be done but be careful.
An aside; Bos, I wouldn't know what to expect from putting gas in a diesel other than the engine would stop running and there would be less lubrication to the injection pump. I wouldn't think it would harm...What did the pro say?

 

Daniel, you clearly don't like this discussion so why bother yourself and others?
Please stay sottovento on this one, you have valuable contributions to make elsewhere. Take advantage of your strong points not the other one.
Please dont answer with descriptions of what other people said or done. It starts sounding like kindergarden, and you must have posted a lot of good post to have the points you have.
Please

Marc

 

Gas in diesel? depends on how much. If it is up to 30%, add 2 stroke oil 25:1 proportion to the amount of gas and forget about it.
If is is more, I would try to drain at least half and refill with diesel and then add oil. Messy job unless you have plenty drums and a good pump and room to move.
Who says the engines need new rings?
About the idea of 200L drums as additional fuel, for a boat that is going to be shot at? I don't like the idea. In fact I was going to suggest some type of plate between the hull and the tanks to armor them a bit. Drums filled with fuel in such vessel is asking for trouble not to mention illegal unless carried on deck and that is an even worst idea.

 

http://www.piracysuppression.com/armedescorts.html
Above is a link to a company that provides naval escort.

Below, you can join them and train with them, an easy way to learn and then split on your own I think. There are harder ways to learn than from those who are already doing it and willing to pay for you to learn.
http://www.piracysuppression.com/positionsavailable.html

 

THis is almost 5 years old

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12241

 

I like the "Quick Response Escort Vessel in Asia"

But where are the chicken coops?

 

Yes that one looks like crap, you would think is loaded with illegal immigrants wanting to land at Chrismas Island.

What do you think about their choice of boat? Is it really that bad as Richard says? I like the norvegian missile boat better but that must cost a mint to operate.
I think they could get a professional to build extra tankage in that coastal patrol boat no problem.
otherwise if opertaion cost are too high, the only clear choice is a smaller boat. 100' will always cost more than 60'

 

I love those Norwegian ones you posted. Expensive to operate, yes, but fuel will be part of the bill. Tankage, I think, is the bigger concern (And startup costs).

 

http://commercial.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=101763
How about this one. 2x 12v71 detroit. Nowthere is a cheap engine. Not sure what speed nor tankage