Pirate Mercs

[Marco1]

OK here is the ideal boat. Mus contact the Norvegian military. Built in 1977 so cant ask for much. 33m long 35+ knotts. May even convince them to forget to dismantle the missiles if you tell them what you are going to use them for.

http://www.mil.no/flo/start/virksomh...ticleID=188818

Check out the pics next to the boat plans link, the one launching the missle is a good one.

[powerabout]

I think the guys who are doing it already are just getting on board the customers vessel ( can do in international waters and then leave with guns)
But you would need to check your insurance first

Wonderful. A shot will never need be fired. It's gonna roll in seas and the crew is gonna puke but this is perfect.

[Marco1]

[Marco1]

[Marco1]

Heck, I want one of those! I didn't even realize they had no draught! Marco, did you happen to find what they want for one?

[Marco1]

No Mark I did not apply to the Norwegian navy, you have to fill in forms and stuff. I don't think they will be real cheap but also can not ask for much for something built in the seventies. There is a whole heap of ex navy/army/patrol boats on offer in northern Europe, have a look at the other links I posted, I found that after only 10 minutes searches so I am sure there is a whole heap more. The problem older military boats have for civilian life is that they are far too fuel thirsty since they are geared for speed. Main engine: 2 x MTU 538 MD 16V TB91 3600 HP at 1900 rpm
If you have to repower and then modify interior, you end up spending a small fortune and may s well buy something else second hand.
Of course fs the intended use is military then they must be perfect for that.

Do you think this things will roll a lot? I can see they have no keel at all. May be if you buy one you can add two long and slim floaters on the side separated from the hull by some spaceship arms of sort and make into a trimaran?

[Boston]

nice boat
cant imagine what the operating costs are but
nice boat

These things are definately gonna have the one inch fuel lines (25mm?). RE Roll: I just see the poor CG kids get off of a November patrol around Kodiak. Pouring sweat, having been scared to death, they kiss the dock.
These are the 110' Island Class and they try not to go out in more than ten foot. They draw twice as much water as the Norwegian boats. Ours in Homer is the Roanoke Island.

[ancient kayaker]

Can't help wondering if a significant portion of the money now being spent on naval escorts, skyhigh insurance rates and ransoms couldn't be better spent trying to deal with the poverty that gives rise to such desperation, and the international politics that gives rise to such poverty. Of course, dealing with the religious issues that gave rise to the international politics in the first place is likely to be a sticking point ...

"...international politics that gives rise to such poverty."
Those people being turds is now our fault? Don't MAKE me send John Candy up there!

[powerabout]

sending money to Africa only benfits the , private jet and megayacht companies and the odd Swiss Bank.
They're poor due to internal political problems and most of the top of Africa is a christian muslim problem.

Where do you think Gadaffi spends his billions these days after Reagan taught him not to play games outside Africa

[Boston]

well there are two sides to that coin
on the one hand the level of corruption involved in the governments of all countries is legendary, Africa specially so, no amount of aid is going to stop that and more likely just contribute to it ( pun intended ). The real problem came from near shore factory fishing when the governments of Africa 20+ years ago sold off fishing rights thereby destroying the subsistence fishing of the locals. Thats when the real poverty and hunger set in and led to the state of affairs we have now. To a large degree at least.

The other side of the coin is a little less clear. Africa was sliced like a chicken at the end of WW2 and the resulting borders both inhibited tribal movement and instigated racial strife as well did the non existance of a middle class within the old or new social design. Lead to massive corruption that is alive and well to this day.

Put the two together and you get an endless cycle of BS from which no mortal could possibly rise and succeed let alone the common man. There is little hope for Africa under the present system and little hope the present system is likely to change any time soon. It boils down to containment. The oppressors are by now themselves and there crimes are there own, I say they own there own **** and Ill own mine. If they come out and want to rob me I say I stand up and fight. If they come out and want to rob someone else and that someone else wishes to avoid that scenario then the means for them to avoid it should be legal and available. Otherwise the world falls to chaos does it not. Anarchy is not an option to civilized men.
Trick is to now define civilization



I say the Iroquois civilization and constitution was a pretty good model

B

"I say the Iroquois civilization and constitution was a pretty good model" - so thot the framers of the U.S. Constitution. A little Roman Senate and plebeian Assembly, a little give-and-take of the Iroquois Constitution. The President might be the Onandanga Fire-Keeper. Don't know how the Judiciary fits in - arguably like the media since the 60's, an arm of the left, subjugating the very constitution that allowed them. Yeah, Bos, the 5 or 6 sovereign nations of the Iroquois lasted longer than the U.S. has so far.