Pirate Mercs

[powerabout]

The pirates do shut down in the monsoon and no boats get attacked.
As soon as its finished, now, off they go again
Ater all the mother ships ( the vessels that can evade any western technology) have to back ashore and re provsion and re fuel etc.

"these guys are in 20ft boats, adverse enough weather to shut down a helo is going to shut them down too, no doubt about it."

I beg to differ. The main difference is that the pirate's lives have little value. They'll try a landing, crush one's leg, lose one into the water, and two will get onboard -or not but the helo can't take chances.

[powerabout]

ok
but the stats show there is little to no piracy in the bad weather season
We had planned to take one company vessel from the MED back to Asia in November and there was only one attack during that period.
The Company CSO sent the data and we booked a place in a convoy but contract didnt come off so we stayed put.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by powerabout

The pirates do shut down in the monsoon and no boats get attacked.
As soon as its finished, now, off they go again
Ater all the mother ships ( the vessels that can evade any western technology) have to back ashore and re provsion and re fuel etc.

Which brings us back to MOAB the home port.

[Fajah Dave]

These two documents attached below outline what is required to legally employ firearms, to include machine guns, onboard U.S. flagged vessels who are engaged in protecting shipping in high-risk transit areas.

They shed a lot of light on the legalities and have given broad powers to contractors.

Cheers!

There is more info on this at http://www.maritimesecurityforum.com

Thanks, Dave. I didn't get into the forum - didn't figure I had time. The first
link, Port Security Advisory 4-09 (rev 2) Final (2).pdf (39.9 KB, 2 views) , kinda indicates no bigger than .50 cal (good enuf) and non-automatic. The US didn't sign our rights away by treaty, did they, to form this International Traffic In Arms Regulation (ITAR)? Again, tho, I have seen pics of mercs with selective fire (auto). There must be exceptions made but I sure wouldn't want the Feds pissed at me. The second link just talked about TWIC (proof of background check and photo ID). Mariner's document isn't good enough anymore - they need to do yet another background check and make yet another picture ID.

[Marco1]

Originally Posted by Boston

They are working on backing. Matter of fact they are working on backing as hard as they can. They pooled there money and have enough to get themselves and some equipment on site but I dont think they have near enough for a boat or a mission with out a sponsor.

To bad to cause these guys are about the most capable bunch you would never want to run into.
They have been good friends all and I wish them the best
was hoping I could come back at them with some better news but I gotta give em the straight story regardless
they are way short and they desperately need a paying customer

B

Hi Boston, your friend's idea is not new, there are already firms offering this services, so there must be a market and a way to do it.
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/20...corts_060509w/

• Use escort services. Ships from several nations, including the U.S. and India, are patrolling the seas off Somalia and chartered vessels from private military companies such as Background also are believed to be under hire as escorts.

Duperouzel said his company and its select employees work on low-speed, heavy, low-to-the water, easily boarded vessels ranging from towed oil rigs to tankers and big construction barges.

“We protect slow-moving, high-value assets, ships that travel under 10 knots with little freeboard,” he said. “Because they are such easy targets, we are onboard to deter attacks, to warn the pirates ahead of time and let them know we have the manpower to make a boarding very unattractive.”

[Dave Gudeman]

I'm a little curious about why it would be hard to find a boat for this. It's easy to find cheap, used fishing trawlers in the 50' to 75' range? What would be the problems with one of those? They couldn't keep up with the freighters? They aren't reliable enough? They smell like fish?

[dskira]

Boston, you receive strange phone call for stranges enquiries.
But it's your telephone
Cheers
Daniel

[Marco1]

http://www.apolloduck.nl/feature.phtml?id=40829

Boston, try to google 'patrol boat for sale' using www.google.nl or www.google.de there is plenty of older ex police military or navy patrol boats in Europe lying around.

[Boston]

ok well I just got off the phone with those guys and they are looking for a marine Ma-Duce if anyone has a handle on one
two actually but its all depending on the price
I sent a link to the boat you suggested Marco and they think its to small but thanks anyway
they are hell bent on a 100'+ steel armored navy or coast guard something
they have a layer on board who is also navy seal who is looking over the legal stuff you guys suggested and digging into Djibouti laws for american flagged vessels. He seems to know what he's talking about but said to send him anything I found so I did

basically other than the operating costs of the boat they seem to be gradually pulling it together

speaking of which they asked if I would check on shipping companies operating in those areas that might need there services

anyone know some of those guys down there dodging pirates
contact info would be greatly appreciated

thanks
B

Yes Dave, Time is money and the military profile will preclude ever having to actually use force.

[Marco1]

http://commercial.apolloduck.nl/feature.phtml?id=105033

THis one would be nice to have on deck of the larger 100' one
http://commercial.apolloduck.nl/feature.phtml?id=93621

This is not bad, big, metal, fast.
http://commercial.apolloduck.nl/feature.phtml?id=115859

Another one
http://commercial.apolloduck.nl/feature.phtml?id=40821

http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boats%20for%2...t%20Vessel.pdf

The bottom ofthe list is still availalbe
http://www.plymshipbroker.com/patrol&safety.html

http://www.towingline.com/maritime-n...ered-for-sale/

http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/...225/index.html

http://www.plymshipbroker.com/seahun...rol-boats.html

[YuriB]

I would rather think from another point of view. Buy decomissioned sub and offer it as an operation base to pirates. They may give you piece of cake if you extend their range of operation.
http://www.djurgardsvarvet.se/vari/u....php?sold=true

[Marco1]

THis may interest your friends, here is some competition.

http://commercial.apolloduck.com/fea...html?id=119437