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Old 12-29-2009, 11:19 PM
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Those who would sleep at night could sleep on deck ,--very pleasant ,--no mosquito's.

Day time below ,--not pleasant although the temp at sea is much cooler than land.

Sea sickness however is terrible. Tough guys can get sea sickness.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:26 PM
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Dang, I can't stop looking at those boats (or laughing at my own jokes!)...
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:27 PM
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Tough guys are THE biggest crybabies when retching!
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:46 PM
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This are 120 feet long. Should be ok for bad weather.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:54 PM
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Bad weather?
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Sent an email to the Norwegian Ministry of Defence. Lets see what he has to say.
This boats are sold de-militarised...whatever that means...Torpeto tubes can be used to store fishing rods, yet will be a very nice deterrant
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:04 AM
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I like the look.
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I know Hunt's deal is deep-V and these aren't but not having a half mil for this Goetz-built hunt Hull and preferring the speed afforded by this Norwegian design, I'd love to find a way to make one work!
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:10 AM
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Ok, I am going to see how much these sexy babys are going for. I will let you know when I get an answer.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:10 AM
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This is difficult because the boats you are looking at will be reasonable stable at 18KTS but roll like a pig when waiting for your customer which could be hours.

In what direction are the winds in the area you are patrolling, beam on I would imagine?
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:11 AM
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This boats are sold de-militarised...whatever that means...Torpeto tubes can be used to store fishing rods, yet will be a very nice deterrant
de-militarized means all weapons are removed (and weapon mounting points in some cases. As in grinding them down and filling in bolt holes) and any non-structural armour is suppose to be removed. All military electronics are removed, and some markings are removed and repainted.

Basically the point is to remove any aspect of the equipment that makes it suitable for warfare, and would be useless in a civilian role.

So you shouldn't have to worry about the torpedo tubes being in the way. (But rebuilding fake ones as storage lockers would be fun for kicks.)
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:14 AM
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I have seen more mal de mer than anyone every should. I cannot imagine how miserable it would be in 115°F. Did Richard respond about these vessels? He's got a lot of know-how on this stuff...
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:32 AM
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6 and 1/2 million Kronen is something like one million US. May be you can bargain them down?

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The Norwegian Defence Logistics Organization/Surplus Materiel Management Program, has for sale 6 Missil / Motor Torpedo Boats (MTB). The vessels is now released for commercial sale and can be sold to the civilian market. The vessels were upgraded / modernized with new system for around 10 million Euro for each vessel.

* NOK 25.000.000 Norwegian Kroner each vessel; complete/ready for use with new overhauled engines and totally updated including weapon systems!

* NOK 18.000.000 Norwegian Kroner each vessl; as is where is.

* NOK 6.500.000 Norwegian Kroner each vessel; demilitarised.

Hauk patrol boats are a series of Norwegian fast attack craft. Hauk means hawk in Norwegian. They were ordered in the 1970's and the first boat, Hauk, was commissioned on 17 August 1977. Designed as a development of the Storm- and Snøgg-class, by Lieutenant-Commander (later Captain) Harald Henriksen, the 14 Hauk class vessels make up the Coastal Combat flotilla, responsible for protecting the rugged Norwegian coastline. The ships have been continuously modernized and are today known as "Super-Hauks." The Royal Norwegian Navy deployed four of these warships for anti-terror patrol in the Strait of Gibraltar.

The Hauk class ships have been modernized to meet the arrival of the new and more modern Skjold class MTBs. This modernization includes the Senit 8 CMS, Link 11 (receive only), modifications of the Penguin missiles and upgrades on the navigation equipment. Specified prospect on request!

Class overview: Hauk Yard: Bergens Mek Verksteder, Westamarin A/S, Alta Operators: Royal Norwegian Navy

General characteristics Type: Patrol boat and MTB Displacement: 120 tons standard, 160 tons full load Length: 36.5 metres (120 ft) Beam: 6.2 metres (20 ft) Draught: 1.8 metres (5.9 ft) Draft: 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) Propulsion: 2 x MTU 16V 538 TB92 diesels; 2 shafts, 6,820 hp(m), 5 ''MW'' Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h) Range: 440 miles (710 km) at 30 knots (56 km/h) Complement: 24 (including 6 officers)

Sensors and processing systems: Surface search/navigation; 2 x Litton radars (I-band) Weapons control; Kongsberg MSI-80S or Sagem VIGY-20 optronic director Combat data systems; DCN SENIT 2000 (from late 2001) and Link 11 Others; EO-sensor Armament: 6 x Mk 2 Penguin missile SSMs, Twin Simbad launcher for Matra Sadral and Manpad SAMs, 1 x Bofors 40 mm L/70 gun, 2 x TP 613 torpedo tubes

All 6 MTB is now released for commercial sale and can be sold to the civilian market to buyers who could be accepted/certificated by The Norwegian Ministry of Defence and the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs as "end user! Request only pr. email to: bstavrum@mil.no


Specifications
Vessel name: 6 X MISSIL TORPEDO VESSELS SUPER HAUK
Vessel condition: VERY GOOD
Vessel type: SUPER HAUK
Designer: Harald Henriksen
Builder: Bergen Mechanical Yard
Model: HAUK
Year refitted: 2005
No. of engines: 2
Engine model: MTU
Engine power: 7200 HP
Fuel type: Diesel
Drive type: Shaft drive
Crusing Speed: 32 Knots
Maximum Speed: 36 Knots

Length over all: 36.53m
Hull material: Steel
Fuel capacity: 20000 Litres

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Hauk patrol boats are a series of Norwegian fast attack craft. The denomination “Hauk” translates to hawk, (the bird of pray). The boats were ordered in the 1970's and the first boat “Hauk” was commissioned on 17 August 1977. The 14 Hauk class vessels make up the FPB flotilla, responsible for protecting the rugged Norwegian coastline. The vessels were design as a Motor Torpedo Boat, after 20 years in service they were extensively by introduction of new sensors, a combat management system as well as platform management system. In addition auxiliary weapon system components as well as platform system elements were also changed and modernised e.g. the INS and HVAC system. The modernised boats have been denominated the “Super Hauk Class” and are now refereed to a Missile Torpedo Boats. The Royal Norwegian Navy deployed four of these warships for anti-terror patrol in the Strait of Gibraltar during 2003, and four to the coast of Lebanon from 2006 to early 2007 as a part of the UNIFIL II weapon embargo.

The Hauk class ships have been modernized to meet the arrival of the new and more modern Skjold class. This modernization includes the Senit 2000 CMS, the Vigy 20 electro optical multi sensor (EOMS) modifications of the Penguin missiles and upgrades on the navigation equipment. Specified prospect will be distributed to Potentional Purchaser(s) on request.

Some technical information:
Built: Bergen Mechanical Yard
Class: Missile Torpedo Boat
Speed: 35 Knots +
Tonnage: 123 Tons
Dimensions: Loa 36,53 metres
Main engine: 2 x MTU 538 MD 16V TB91 3600 HP at 1900 rpm
Help engine: 2 x Mercedes Benz OM401 144 HP at 1800 rpm
Side thrusters: Gear 2 x MTU KS 4118 Mod. Hauk Propeller 3 blades
Bunker: 20 000 litre diesel
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:44 AM
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Ok, for one of these boats demilitarised they want $1,117,415. If I want it in "as is" condition they want $3,094,380. I wonder how much we could charge for escorts, how many contracts we could get a month, and how long it would take to make the money back.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:49 AM
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Background is talking about an average of 50,000 per escort in Asia and that is an interview that is 5 years old
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:18 AM
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7200hp and 20,000 lts..its not going very far!
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:19 AM
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Ok, for one of these boats demilitarised they want $1,117,415. If I want it in "as is" condition they want $3,094,380. I wonder how much we could charge for escorts, how many contracts we could get a month, and how long it would take to make the money back.
You may want to form a business and then start approaching companies who may be interested in services before you buy the boat. Do actual market research if you haven't already, and go from there. I can't say I've ever dealt with a start up business this unique, but I've seen far too many people fail with a small business venture because they assumed too much about the market and what they could make.
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