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Old 03-04-2007, 11:07 AM
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Swamplizard and all:
While we are showing the brotherly love, I'm a little(harley) lonely here in Texas-anybody? Seriously, Swamplizard-you should contact B. Kehren in N.Miami Beach. He is the one with the 63x14. He would probably like to show it to you and maybe take you for a ride. He's minutes from you. I go there frequently, so next time I'd like to see your boat.

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Old 03-04-2007, 11:09 AM
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prop shafts

Steve
there is a chance that your drives are the earlier SP 1000's that Harley used in some of the first 42's. Those drives steered and trimmed on a CV joint vs. the double U-joint on the later #8's. I think that all of the SP 1000's were 19 spline, I don't know if they made a #8 with 19 splines. I am sure that Ken @ Pacific Surface Drives would know. By the way when I re-powered in 2003 I swapped out my older SP 1000's for #8's that I got from Rik @ Arneson. Then I had 25 spline. Sold SP 1000's with a set of tranny's to a guy in Boston for about 5 grand, included complete assessories, 2 sets of props, etc. The 1000's were troublesome. Replaced many CV joints, expensive parts, lot's of work. There should be an ID plate on top of drive. Might need to scrape it off to read info. If they are 1000's it may be on that plate. If anybody out there has 1000's and needs a CV joint, contact me, I have a contact at a direct manufacuterer. Cost from Arneson or Twin-Disc is more. Since you are down south I wondered if you had ever heard of Mark Wilson (around Stuart), he is a big time Arneson/Prop guru. I'll look for number if you have not heard of him.
I'll try to look at your boat maybe later this winter (our 2nd home is in N. Palm Beach). I think I am down the weekend of 3-31/4-1. I don't know if we could fit it in but I will have my mechanic with me (he wants to go to Barrett/Jackson auto auction). He has 15 years+ exp. on Harley's and Arnesons. Let me know where your boat would be. He also wants to go to Fla. Derby @ Gulfstream, I think that is your neighborhood. Good luck with props/drives.
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:38 PM
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Stop in for a beer - I'm in lighthouse point. email me at orenard at comcast dot net for cell phones #s etc.

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:55 PM
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Steve:
I had an older set of the ASDs, mine are called SP1200(Surface piercing). I have the CV joint version. It is correct that you can order one(bearings) for a fraction of the retail price. I purchased 2 from a company in Europe that manufactures them for carnival rides. I have rebuilt and replaced these once, they have been fairly bullet proof for me. These are of course larger drives, and the almost exact same as the ASD10' currently in production. I do not know about the SP1000s'. In the same location, south Florida you need to also contact Paul Sanderlin, P&L Marine, he was recommend to me by Arneson Industries(Rik). He rebuilt my drives and was extremely reasonable. He know almost everything about the drives but defers to prop experts for sizing. I know a guy who is looking for some ASD8's, are you selling yours? He has a Haley boat as well. I think the market price is greater than 5k unless they are torn up. I was fortunate enough to find an almost new set of ASD10's sitting on a shelf by the great lakes. They were 15k. This is typical for a good used set. 25 tooth is a common spline for these, the 19tooth can be converted.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:55 AM
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The SP series drives were produced up to approx. 1990. At one point you could get either one according to TD. Twin disc still makes the Arneson drive and ZF has their own version called the SeaRex/Trex(one is smaller) which has all the hydraulic lines inside the transom. If I were buying a new set I would definitely consider the SeaRex/TRex from ZF.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:58 AM
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Thanks for the invitation

Swamplizzard,

We were just in Fort Lauderdale 2 weeks ago on vacation. We went down for speed week at Daytona then spent the week following in Boca. We have a condo there. I was dying for a boat ride and settled for the 3 hour round trip water taxi ride on the New River. We kept our eyes open for Harleys but didn't see any. Next time I 'll know who to call.

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Old 03-05-2007, 11:58 AM
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Oliver: I had a similiar problem with a set of props. They slid too far on the shaft because of the different taper. I was able to make a spacer that allowed them to fit.

Can you yake a pic of two props, so we can see the difference?

Just an idea,

Steve
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:40 AM
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I pu my props back on the boat but will take pics when I can....managed to throw my back out again doing some honey-do stuff.....ugh

Anyway - Rik at arneson confirmed that I have ASD8s. My existing props are 4-inch hubs with spacers and both of the ones I want to try are 6-inch and should fit. Unless, somewhere along the line, someone modified my shafts. Got a buddy who is a machinist and will measure them and compare them to the new porps.

Steve - is ok if I ship them back to you next week? Can't face lifting them for a few days.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:13 PM
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I pu my props back on the boat but will take pics when I can....managed to throw my back out again doing some honey-do stuff.....ugh

Anyway - Rik at arneson confirmed that I have ASD8s. My existing props are 4-inch hubs with spacers and both of the ones I want to try are 6-inch and should fit. Unless, somewhere along the line, someone modified my shafts. Got a buddy who is a machinist and will measure them and compare them to the new porps.

Steve - is ok if I ship them back to you next week? Can't face lifting them for a few days.

NO RUSH
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:06 AM
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Sorry guys, I guess I have been a little off topic. I get the post sent to my blackberry(crackberry) and then respond w/o reading the full post. My only contribution to the current topic is I know that the shaft size and splines are interchangeable. You can order asd8's with 19 or 25 tooth splines. anyway, sorry about that.

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Old 03-16-2007, 08:09 AM
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Steve - props are on their way back to you. Thanks again for the offer to test them and the trust involved to do so. You are a good man and I owe you one. Sorry it didnt work out. Cheers
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:43 AM
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Steve - props are on their way back to you. Thanks again for the offer to test them and the trust involved to do so. You are a good man and I owe you one. Sorry it didnt work out. Cheers
Not a problem. I have done a lot of horse trading with fellow boaters across the country. Haven't beed screwed yet. (knock on wood)

So what is the deal? What type of 19 spline shafts do you have? I thought they were all the same other than length?
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Old 03-16-2007, 04:22 PM
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apparently not - I cant tell if mine have been modified or what the deal is. Rik at arneson identified them for me as asd8s...so it should work but wasnt even close. I might get the 4 blade props machined by a freind of mine to make them fit...then I'll have spares and can get them tuned as needed...it's more $$$ but I cant cruise these shallow aters without spares.
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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Steve - get the props yet?
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:40 PM
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SWAMPLIZARD Have you spoken to Errol Lanier? If hes still in Ft.Lauderdale hes good at ASD'S
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