Outboards 2009 - HP, Weight, Make Comparison

[mwatts]

Originally Posted by Wynand N

Wrong on both counts Perhaps as a Tohatsu dealer I can shed some light on these magnificent motors...

Tohatsu is build by Tohatsu who incidentally is the biggest and oldest outboard engine manufacturer in Japan. In some markets the Tohatsu is marketed as a Nissan and this may come as a shocker to those believing in the American dream. All Mercury's two stroke engines from 50hp down to 2.5 are built by Tohatsu and are just badge engineering. Mercury's four stroke are build by Tohatsu.

Ok thanks. Good to know.

What is Selva then?

[rwatson]

Originally Posted by Wynand N

Watson, seems like different markets dictates different engines. Here in the land of murder, rape, corrupt government/president etc, we have no laws re emissions to adhere to, and we still have have a ball.

The Tohatsu 60hp is available from our importer and in stock. The 140hp is a hot number here and freely available - how many do you want to order from me?

As soon as I have time available, I will post you the rpm of the "sister" engines mentioned later.

Thanks - some indicative pricing would also be welcome. Why would anyone buy the 60 hp for example ?

[Fanie]

Why would anyone buy the 60 hp for example ?

Because it's the closest to a decent motor you can afford

Lets face it, outboards have become really expensive.

[rwatson]

why would the 60 be much cheaper than the 70 when they are basically the same motor ?

Probably why they arnnt on the range in Australia

Thats why I asked for prices.

[Wynand N]

Originally Posted by rwatson

why would the 60 be much cheaper than the 70 when they are basically the same motor ?

The 60hp Tohatsu is not on our importers list anymore after checking yesterday and wont be imported again. The 50hp & 70hp units are and the price difference here are also small, although they are different motors. My retail prices for them are as follows in ZAR.

50hp = ZAR47500
70hp = ZAR53750

The difference is about Aussie$ 960

[rwatson]

Originally Posted by Wynand N

The Tohatsu 60hp is available from our importer and in stock. The 140hp is a hot number here and freely available - how many do you want to order from me?.

Bugger - I had the cheque in my hand ready to post. I bet the 140 2s is unavailable to.

Its as I thought - the 60 was the same motor - and a waste of catalogue space.

A thousand dollars is about the right price difference between models.

As BOAT = "Bring Over Another Thousand"

[Wynand N]

told you before the 140 2s is a hot number here...I have stock and the importers have ample. The reason for this engine selling like hot cakes is the fact that is cheap and a lot of bang for money. Its direct competitor is the Yamaha 130hp and 150hp that sells for 40% and 58% more respectively here locally and the Tohatsu has all the Yam features and more - possibly the better engine as well.
That said, some engines in this brand are hard to get by due to world demand and to name but two - 2,5hp and the 25hp 2s are rare - my importers can only have an assignment of these coming in February due to factory production deliveries

[powerabout]

Could you add the BRP engines as they are all 2 strokes from 25 and up.
I would be interested to see how much lighter they are?
Thanks

[rwatson]

Never heard of BRP.

Have they got a web site with specs ?

OK, You mean Bombadier Recreational Products - for out boards that = Evinrude, I have heard of them

I hope their motors are better than their web-sites, nothing works. If you dig out the weight, model and HP from somewhere, I ma happy to stick it on the graph

[powerabout]

Works for me I used the Ozzy one
http://www.evinrude.com/en-AU/
you need to load a pdf for each engine
here's one 60hp = 109kg 20" tnt
You might want to add cc and cylinders to help correct the data as one manufacturere might be at the hp top end of an engine range while another may have the largest cc and kg as it is the bottom end of the model design range.
You also need to look at prop diameter and gear ratio to also compare what will happen in the real world between 2 engines of the same horsepower.
So one will make a light boat go fast and the other will pull more skiers out.
Comparing horsepower of outboards is not as good a measure than if you were talking diesels etc due to the above especially in the mid range.
Unfortunately its the only real measure you have as a consumer.

Nice work
Regards

[fastpowerboats]

AeroMarine has a database of all outboard and inboard engine specifications, I think it includes all specs including weights, HP, RPM, etc. for entire HP range by each manufacturer.

[rwatson]

Thats facnastic !. It costs $70, but its well worth it if you have Outboard selection to do

Good tip FastPower

http://www.aeromarineresearch.com/cg...html?E+scstore