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Old 03-29-2002, 12:32 AM
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my 2 cents!

Hello all;
I have been thinking a lot on this project. I am glad to see so many ideas and numbers flying around. I will begin to think out loud now so please bear with the jumble.
Keep in mind that this is all a big opinion of mine!
1) The very root of marketing is “Who is buying what I am selling”? Or what age group are we shooting for? How financially secure are they? How many “weeks” a year are they going to be cruising? And so on I think this all leads to budget (how spendy can we design her?
2) All of the designs I have coaxed out of my pencil are for “my dream boat” I at this point I could not buy 10 pounds of screws let alone a $400.000.00 PICKNICK BOAT
But the guys making them are selling boats faster than they can wax their molds! All this leads to my thought that let’s not get bogged down by reality on this project! We have the freedom to design without worrying about wallet size. And when complete somebody can afford her! Otherwise 140’ tri decks would not exist!
So…. enough soap boxing! I will try to get my 6 points of light out.
1) 42-48’ semi-displacement (but on the heavy side-cruise @9-10 max @ 14Kts)
Cored fiberglass (weight and maintenance)
2) Crewed by 2 at all times! Sleep 6 (2 state rooms, convertible saloon)
3) Range of 800-1000 mi
4) Twin screws for maneuverability in foreign harbors, reliability
5) Custom production with plan adjustment for competent one-off construction
6) Covered aft deck w/ soft enclosure

OK I hope all that makes sense!
I hope we can build one big enough to get you all up here for coffee and king season!
This is a great experience for me! Thanks to you all!!!! 8Kts
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Old 03-29-2002, 12:45 AM
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8kts,
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Old 03-29-2002, 02:32 AM
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For what must surely rate as one of the best thought out small powercats on the market visit www.pdqyachts.com and follow the prompts to see their MV32.
I hate to say it (and no doubt you can all prove me wrong...) but I'd be surprised if we could improve on this little beauty. The MV32 fulfills almost all our design criteria so far (all that is except for price!) The only criticism I can level at it is that it has no aft cockpit - to my mind an absolute necessity on any boat.
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Old 03-29-2002, 02:55 AM
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They did do a nice job, and their presentation is great too - I really like their web site and their interactive plan especially.

This boat is very well planned and very well done, but I also think there are some things that we could improve upon... of course, I mean improve as far as I'm concerned for my own taste at least

For one thing, as a semi-custom design I think we could have a bit richer style. I'd like to see a more seductive curvature in the deckline or at least some detailing to soften it or facet it so it's not quite so boxy. And I'm not sold on the (interior) helm - I think we could do better, and I think we could be a bit more imaginative on the flybridge as well. Of course saying and proving are two different things...
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Old 03-29-2002, 06:57 AM
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Multihulls introduce a whole new set of variables (and problems) to the equation. In some respects, cats are ideal cruisers with their stable platform and rough water ability. They also have serious limitations in docking, weight carrying and building difficulty and costs. I think the displacement cats with speed potential limited to the high teens are the best bet as power cruisers. Wave piercer hulls are looking very good but max out the docking disadvantages.

Got to go. Sailing out to Cape Lookout for Easter weekend. Hope the pedicted front slows down til we get back home. See you Monday.
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I to am gone for the weekend. Sadly I won't be on the water. It's still rock solid around here. Have a good one!
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Old 03-29-2002, 03:23 PM
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Have a great weekend and a happy Easter everyone.

It's so nice and warm here today - in the 50's finally - that I'm starting to wish I was out on the water. Happens every spring about this time

On the other hand, we still have some ice and snow, and the CG icebreaker just came in yesterday, so it might be just a little early still

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And Paul has now taken the ideas from this thread and put together the next new poll at: http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthr...p?threadid=502
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