If the members of this forum....

[duluthboats]

Ok, this is somthing that I think might speed things up just a small amount. When we have a question that is to be decided by a poll, the question is posted, than we have two days of debate, than a one day poll. I'm already 50 years old and would like to work on more than one boat. Some things could be agreed to by a simple yay or nay, in one day. I don't want to get to deep into rules and such, but this is a great collection of talent and I would like to see it grow.
I'm no artist, and a little slow on my CAD system but I'll keep up the best I can. You can count on me to state the facts as I see them.
Gary / AKA duluthboats

[Stephen Ditmore]

O.K., but let me add there's nothing to say the boat 8Knots started at my urging has to be "THE" boat. We can start another if the poll, or the debate, suggest another direction to explore.

[Polarity]

Tad and Duluth as they say in Spanish "tiene razon" - you're right.
When I posted the original format I thought about debate then poll or poll then debate - I did not expect it would generate such a interest in a short period of time !

I would suggest that we leave the polls open for a minimum of 2 days as not everyone gets to check in every day and there are not a few different time zones around here - we can roll that in with the debate time to keep things moving.

I can see that the designers are itching to start designing, but I would suggest that we keep with the polls as otherwise we will be tempted to head off down the path of the first question...

By having the exact direction be unpredictable (ie a poll of 300) I hope it will keep generating new ideas, questions and opportunities for input - and not a few upsets and surprises.
Meanwhile of course everything that gets generated along the way will no doubt continue with a life of its own - 8 has already started a living breathing project (and a great looking boat!) from just one poll.

...(Stephen posted whilst I was writing this!)...

If nobody objects I will post a new poll tomorow... - so a quick debate beforehand
- assuming that "cruising powerboat" wins..
what should the next question be (Tom already touched on one option)...Ideas please

[Gades]

Hi,
I'd like to contribute to the design as well. If you don't mind.

Stephen, could you please explain me a little bit how things would work out? I mean that I don't really know how to handle all this.

[Stephen Ditmore]

Hi, Fernando, welcome back!

I'll leave the process issues to Paul ("Polarity"), as I'm notoriously impatient with buracracy. I'm also notoriously literal, and deal better with questions if they're real specific. Have you seen
http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthr...p?threadid=456
? What do you want to know from me? I guess if you want to contribute a variation on that boat I'd say do it at that thread. If you'd like to propose another design idea or talk about process...
Is this the right place to do that, Paul?

[Gades]

HI Stephen, thanks

the boat in that thread looks interesting to me. I haven't seen any one like it, though.
But I'd definetly like to try something new (I'm stuck with my project )

>>What do you want to know from me?

how a design process would work. When I've been at a design office, I've seen how they did a bit each one. But the were sitting like two meters one from each other. First someone did parametric study, then they did a bit the interior, and so on... (it depended on the type of boat how they'd follow their design process). I guess you know a lot more about all this. That's why I ask you.
Let's say we decide to work on that boat (the 8's one). How would we design the lines; let's say that you're good at that and then you try and we discuss about your results; and that I'm better at doing some modelling, so I'd try to do so following everyone's directions. Is this what we're talking about? How would you think it shold be?
Paul, shouls I live this post in here or somewhere else?

[Polarity]

Hi Fernando !

Hope your catching up with your project.

Re your question, my suggestions would be:

Questions and suggestions about the polling, designing process etc to the BD-1 Project Thread

Suggestions/discussion etc for the one hour sketch to that post

Reasons for voting one way or another, suggestions for the next poll etc. to the poll concerned eg this one!
(now I cant remember which thread Im posting in)

and as 8knts did, post up a new thread for a new design based on the results/discussion so far.

As for how this will all work and what we end up designing and who inputs and how ... Who knows??? - That's part of the fun - nobody is really in control!

Best


Paul

[8knots]

Fellow boat nuts,
First off I feel I have stirred up a little rats nest. For this I am sorry! I should have kept the pencil put away till the poll was over. This is the first and only forum I have posted to. I trust the opinions and experience of all of you here. My understanding of design has expanded 10 fold in the past few months since I have been a member of this group. For this I have nothing but gratitude! I have been scratching out boats by FEEL for years. Now thanks to all of you I am getting closer to understanding the math to my designs. I hope my posting the 1-hour will not give you all the impression that I am being presumptuous. I just got a little too excited! Any justified reason to draw a boat will get me going for hours. Reading and learning from the forum is the highlight of my day!
(8Kts)
I intend to follow the lead of the project creator (PAUL) in order to keep things in line.

[Polarity]

I can only speak for me but this is great! The whole idea was to provide a little stimulation - design, learning and looking at new angles just for the fun of it!

I am sure that there will be a resounding echo to this but KEEP POSTING THE IDEAS AND SKETCHES!!
The polls will move on! Who knows what the final design criteria will be, but your "one hour" I am sure will continue - I am also sure it wont be the last sketch posted up for discussion.

I totally agree: Re
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My understanding of design has expanded 10 fold in the past few months since I have been a member of this group
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For example I just posted up the interior layout I made in a solid/surface modeler (Rhino) - I would never have even thought of or attempted that without the groups encouragement!

Cheers.

Paul

[Barry]

How about a 30 -32 twin volvo diesel duo prop sportfisher style
A fuel burner no doubt but its is hard to find the time to go somewhere at 10 knots. 14-16 degree V, wide beam for lift and
efficiency, table seating with a view, 400 mile range and of course
built out of aluminum. The upper command bridge enclosed to keep the northern Canadian elements out.

[Jeff]

Some forum notes:

Tom Speer has proposed an interesting project, a proa design for handicapped sailors. Since this thread is fairly old now and the poll has closed heavily favoring a power design for cruising, and at Stephen's request, I've split the proa design proposal for mobility-challenged sailors into a new thread so it doesn't get lost:

See: http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthr...p?threadid=472

Paul has also now posted the second poll relating to the collaborative deisgn project – What will we use our power cruiser for? So far it looks like "Coastal hopping for a week" will win by a landslide, but if you haven't already voted, please head on over to that thread as well.

See: http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthr...=&threadid=464

Thanks to everyone who has participated so far. And don't hesitate to join in at any time if you're reading this. And thanks once again to Paul for getting this started.

It will be exciting to see how this project shapes up. It has already generated some neat design ideas and I can't wait to see what happens from here.