What Do We Think About Climate Change

[Pericles]

How about this?

Calm Sun, Cold Earth
Alan Caruba
Published 02/17/2008 - 9:23 a.m. EST

I can understand why people believe that global warming is real and that all the things Greens say are true. One cannot read a newspaper or magazine, turn on the television or radio, without getting the Green message.

Since switching their message in the 1970s that an Ice Age was coming to the complete fiction of a massive, dramatic global warming due to greenhouse gases, the Greens have been able to influence policy at the international and national level. They have been utterly relentless, a modern version of the Mongols on horseback who swept out of the East to conquer everything before them until the reached the gates of Europe. These days the Greens have long since conquered Europe.

One thing alone stands against the Greens. The SCIENCE does not support them. Their sense of moral superiority, their contempt for all things modern, their resistance to all forms of energy except the weakest—wind and solar, and at the very heart of the Greens’ message is a contempt and hatred for the human race.

Humans have come to dominate life on Earth because we know how to adapt to the planet. We know how to use its minerals, the riches of its plant life, the domestication of its animals, and its reserves of energy in the form of coal, oil, natural gas, and nuclear fission, to fuel the creation of great cities, farms and ranches, and everything that passes for modern civilization.

Long ago humans conquered the continents of the Earth and its great oceans to spread everywhere. Humans now fly between continents in hours. Everywhere on the face of the Earth humans now communicate with one another via the Internet.

For billions of years the Earth existed without humans and it will do so again when we cease to inhabit it. As a species, we are newcomers, but like every other species that lived on planet Earth—95% of which are extinct—we are subject to forces far greater than anything we possess.

To suggest that humans actually cause climate change is such idiocy that the Earth itself reminds us daily of our vulnerabilities. The news is full of tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, blizzards, earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, and wildfires.

On February 7, Investors Business Daily had an editorial titled “The Sun Also Sets” in which it cited the views of Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada’s National Research Council. In essence, Tapping wants people to know that solar activity such as sunspots, i.e., magnetic storms, “has been disturbingly quiet.”

It’s useful to know that global temperatures and events closely reflect solar cycles.

The lack of activity “could signal the beginning of what is known as the Maunder Minimum.” While solar cycles tend to last about 11 years, the lack of normal or increased activity can trigger the Maunder Minimum, an event that occurs every few centuries, can last as long as a century, and causes a colder earth.

The most recent such event was the mini-Ice Age that climatologists date from around 1300 to 1850. In the midst of this there was a distinct solar hibernation from around 1650 to 1715.

“Tapping reports no change in the sun’s magnetic field so far this cycle and if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.”

If these events continue and become a cycle of cooling, it represents a major threat to the Earth’s population because it means that food crops will fail and, with them, the means to feed livestock, and the rest of us.

If you have been paying attention to global weather reports, you know that China has had the heaviest snowfall in at least three decades. David Deming, a geophysicist, in a December 19, 2007 article in The Washington Times, noted that, “South America this year experienced one of its coldest winters in decades. In Buenos Aires, snow fell for the first time since the year 1918.” This occurred across the entire Southern Hemisphere. “Johannesburg, South Africa, had the first significant snowfall in 26 years. Australia experienced the coldest June ever.”

It must be said that one big blizzard does not an Ice Age make, but a whole series of events that suggest a cooling cycle may well be the warning that is being ignored in the midst of the vast global warming hoax.

Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin, Merited Scientist of Russia and fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, is staff researcher of the Oceanology Institute. He recently published a commentary asserting that a global cold spell could replace global warming. Note that the Earth has been warming—about one degree Fahrenheit—since the last mini-Ice Age ended around 1850. “The real reasons for climate change are uneven solar radiation”, said Dr. Sorokhtin, while citing others that include the Earth’s axis gyration and instability of oceanic currents.

“Astrophysics knows two solar activity cycles, of 11 and 200 years. Both are caused by changes in the radius and area of the irradiating solar surface.” Yes, the Sun itself goes through periods of change. Dr. Sorokhtin believes that “Earth has passed the peak of its warmer period and a fairly cold spell will set in quite soon, by 2012. Real cold will come when solar activity reaches its minimum, by 2041, and will last for 50-60 years or even longer.”

There is a reason scientists refer to our current era as an “interglacial period”, i.e., a time between Ice Ages.

Up to now, the mainstream media has ignored the cold reality of the Earth’s known cooling cycles. They have been in complete thrall to the howling of Al Gore with his endless lies about an imminent warming. Given the accolade of a Nobel Prize and even a Hollywood Oscar, why should people unschooled in science believe otherwise?

The United Nations International Panel on Climate Change whose reports have been based, not on hard science such as observations of solar activity, but on flawed, often deliberately false computer models, has been the driving factor behind the global warming hoax. What better way to assert political and economic control over the Earth than to create a global crisis? To their credit, many participants in the IPCC have protested these reports.

Large numbers of scientists have sold their soul to the global warming lies in order to receive millions in research grants, but increasingly other scientists have been coming forth to tell the truth. On March 2-4, several hundred will convene in New York for the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change to offer papers and serve on panels disputing and debunking the global warming hoax.

Beyond the climatic threat of a cooling planet is the one posed by U.S. politicians and their counterparts in Europe who are seeking to impose all manner of regulation and limits on energy use based on the false assertion that greenhouse gas emissions are causing global warming.

They want to mandate a “cap-and-trade” scheme that will make some people and industries wealthy selling credits that will permit greenhouse gas emissions. But it is not greenhouse gases we need to fear, it is the action or, in this case, the inaction of the Sun.

At the very moment the Earth is on the cusp of what is likely to be a very long cooling and possibly a full scale repeat of the last Ice Age, all the engines of government, nationally and internationally, are trying to inhibit the discovery, extraction, and use of energy reserves that will be needed to cope with climate changes that will impact millions and, ultimately, billions of people.

All the wind turbines and solar panels in the world will not keep you warm in your home or apartment when a short or long term cooling of the Earth occurs. Ironically, as the Greens rant about so-called endangered polar bears in the Arctic, the bears are far more likely to survive than humans.

What controls the Earth’s climate? The Sun!

Alan Caruba writes a weekly column posted on the Internet site of The National Anxiety Center, www.anxietycenter.com. He blogs at http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com
Views expressed are solely those of the author.

http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=265816

[Pericles]

Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Selling snake-oil

Analysts, we are told, foresee a boom in carbon emissions trading by 2020 as the EU prepares to include new sectors in its Emissions Trading Scheme (EU-ETS). The United States' accession to a similar system, it is felt, appears increasingly inevitable.

The value of the global carbon market shot up by 80 percent in 2007, with some 2.7 billion tons of CO2 credits, worth €40.4 billion, changing hands, in a sign of growing enthusiasm for the carbon trading industry among companies and investors world-wide.

Small wonder that, as the gravy train gathers speed, Sony, Nike, Nokia and nine other multinational companies have signed a declaration in support of a 50 percent reduction in global greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. There's money in that there "carbon".

This is the "Tokyo Declaration", signed on 15 February, supporting the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC) in its assessment that "global emissions of greenhouse gases (GHGs) need to peak in the next 10–15 years and be reduced to very low levels, well below half of the levels in 2000, by the middle of the twenty-first century".

This "non-binding declaration" includes a voluntary pledge to "widen the scope of emission reduction activities in partnering with our business partners" to improve consumer habits and "enhance the transparency of our carbon footprint and related reduction activities".

Meanwhile, in Yorkshire (pictured), as elsewhere, we freeze. There have been fresh falls of snow in Jerusalem and in China snow and freezing weather in southwestern China's Yunnan province stranded 20,000 vehicles on highways. This is almost two weeks after the worst storms in 50 years cut power supplies and transport links to millions of people.

And fire officials are urging New Hampshire residents to clear snow from their roofs to prevent them from collapsing. Roofs in Concord and Bristol collapsed Saturday under the weight of snow and rain from last week's storm. Perhaps we should set up a futures market in snow.

Read the comments section.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/200...snake-oil.html

[safewalrus]

God Pericles can you cackle! "Got more rabb** than Sainsbury's, why don't you give it a rest!" to use the words of the old song!!

If not hows about short bursts - long drawn out monotalogues really do nothing for your cause - whatever that is!

[Pericles]

Safe, No worries.

You must have perused them though, in order to bother to comment.

Pericles

[charmc]

Originally Posted by safewalrus

long drawn out monotalogues really do nothing for your cause - whatever that is!

He's posting articles, Safie. Means he read 'em, offers them for you to read. OK if you don't want to (or can't ). No problem.

Some good data, though. Interesting that all the scientific research papers I've read on every other subject present a theory, give a lot of reproducible supporting data, and draw conclusions supporting the theory, usually including words like "data suggests" "observations thusfar support the theory", and "additional research will be necessary before drawing any firm conclusions", etc. I tend to think that those on either side of the global warming debate who claim they've got it all figured out are purely pissing in the wind.

[Pericles]

Charlie,

Whilst there's still wine in the bottle, I'll stay at my post, although the swimming pool will have its way with me in the morning. I gave my word to my doctor that I will swim over 3 miles per week and that nearly 250 lengths where I go. Slice of cake really, as it takes only 90 minutes to knock out 60 lengths. A perfect reason for a glass or two of fermented grape juice m'thinks!

I distrust all those who claim the planet in in peril. The planet is not in peril, but some forms of life, including we clever apes, may be wiped out by a cataclysmic event of some kind. We exist within an Interglacial Period and, in my opinion, we as a species, have done nothing to justify an intervention from non existent supernatural beings who would view us, as we view the snot on a Kleenex after a very satisfying blow. We came, we saw, we disappeared! The planet will continue spinning, on its axis, in its orbit, around the sun, for another 5 billion years. Humans will be long gone, having not survived in any significant numbers after the next Ice Age that has just started its return.

Still, that's no reason why we shouldn't party.

Regards,

Perry

[Kay9]

Way I see it. Its happened before, it will happen again. I cant see us having any affect one way or the other.

K9

[charmc]

I have mixed feelings. I tend to believe that man's impact is small, but then I read about pelagic fish stocks depleted by drift nets 10 miles long, and huge rafts of plastics drifting in the oceans, and the millions of tons of toxics in combustion gases ... and I wonder and worry.

I read that a single volcanic eruption can put more toxic pollutants in the atmosphere than all manmade sources in a year. Elsewhere I read that manmade atmospherice pollutants are more than 100 times greater than volcanic. Then I read that both numbers are statistical estimates, developed by PhDs, and that both sides claim careful analysis and development of their models.

[Kay9]

I was the captain on an oceanographic research vessel for 5 years.

One day we fished out a glass fishing float that had been drifting around the Pacific for 20 years. Upon landing the fishing float on the deck the 2 chief scientists onboard took one look at all the goseneck barnacles and both in unison exclaimed "Oh what are those??!"

My response was. "You have to be f'ning kidding me right? They are only, about the most, abundant life in the ocean."

To which they said. "We spend all of our time at the University studing the ocean. We cant be expected to know about all the life out here."

Leaving I think I said something like. "You could look off a f'ing dock once in a while, at least then you would know what a gooseneck barnecle is!"

Thats a no shitter.

K9

[safewalrus]

there's non so blind as them as will not see!! methinks!!

[charmc]

Amazing, isn't it?

I was asked once by a project engineer if one of their systems could be turned on its side to fit into an air shipping container. I said no because they used a multistage vertical pump with the motor on top. If turned on its side, all the weight would be cantilevered and the frame was not strong enough to take that stress. I got a blank look and a plaintive "What does cantilevered mean?"

Another time I was talking with the engineer in charge of design of a multimillion dollar municipal water treatment system. When I began asking questions about the technology they were recommending, she got very annoyed and said, "I don't know anything about water treatment. I'm the project manager."

[PAR]

Humans have impacted the waters of the world more then anything else by a wide margin. The air is self cleaning, but the abilities of the oceans to support life has been dramatically harvested (not reduced). Fresh water in particular has been affected so dramatically that less then 1% is safe to drink and it's ability to support life drastically reduced.

Given 20 years of uninterrupted molestation, the fish populations would come back and the fresh water supply would clean up substantially, but this assumes responsibility of humans, which isn't likely in the near future.

Humans are more akin to a virus then an intelligent species, consuming, altering and destroying everything in sight until they've eating and toyed themselves out of house, home and food supply. A fitting result in the Petri dish of life, if you ask me.

After 100 years of non-human intervention, little would be recognizable of society. In 1000 years, no record that man ever existed would be visible without a shovel, including our cities, which would become the mystery burial mounds of our existence, found by some archeologist a few thousand millennium later, in the world's history.

[kach22i]

This guy thinks like I do.

The Hovercraft and Global Climate Change
http://www.jameshovercraft.co.uk/hov...ages/index.htm

The weather is big in the news of today. All the time we're seeing floods due to snowmelt, or unseasonal rainfall, even sea level rise. This doesn't just affect "3rd world" countries like (for example) Bangladesh and African countries, it also has an equally devastating effect potentially on "1st world countries" like the US, UK, European countries.

There's not a lot we can do about it.

Therefore we have to find ways to cope with what might happen in perhaps 10 years down the line when our towns built on river deltas or reclaimed land start to flood.

Imagine the possible environment for a moment. Roads will be useless, because they'll be flooded and muddy. Well, travel by boat then, you might say. No, because the water's too shallow for a powerboat, too muddy and full of reeds for propellers to operate in. So, what's the answer? Well, in my view, there's only one transport method that can really provide a cheap, and versatile means of moving around, that being of course, the hovercraft. It's been around for years, over 40 in fact, on a large scale, yet few people use them to get around.

I'm not saying that the old behemoths like the SRN4 should be reinvented for mass public transportation, but smaller craft like those offered by Griffon, Hover-Shuttle, and Australian Hovercraft (to name but a few companies) would be ideal.

Already, craft built by Griffon are in use by the British RNLI (Royal National Lifeboat Institute) on the mud flats in and around the UK, river estuaries, tidal bays and so on, and have saved many lives. These are small craft, about 6-8 seaters, which can go over land, sea, and mud.

They're a success! Is this what we need in the future? Is this what we need now? Only time will tell, but in my opinion it could well be better to be safe than sorry.

James Rowson

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[charmc]

Originally Posted by kach22i

This guy thinks like I do.

The Hovercraft and Global Climate Change

George,

Why am I reminded of that saying about the carpenter who sees all the world's problems as nails?

[masalai]

Even GoogleEarth in its latest release, has recognised the probability of climate change by including an option to see what happens with sea level increases in 1m increments to 100m (using an imaginary timeline), so you can see where your home/neighbourhood sits when the "tide comes in" with the melting of all land borne ice.