What Do We Think About Climate Change

[gonzo]

If you listen, the politicians are always using the phrase: "scientists say". They never name them. The Nobel price went to Al Gore, a professional politician. "Scientists" are the new monks of the new religion. It is as incorrect to challenge their dogma as it was to challenge the Church in the Middle Ages. Hopefully a new Renaissance will come.

[masalai]

Have faith, my son - - would never say that being very materialistic... Put the pause for effect to get two different meanings...

[wardd]

of course all the melting glaciers don't say anything

[masalai]

Please leave glass blowers out of this debate, there are enough problems with Monica...

[Guillermo]

Here the "shortened" track to the papers I've presented, gathered by a said Andrew at Popular Technology:
http://www.populartechnology.net/200...upporting.html
From there you can download them all.

Cheers.

[Guillermo]

"As physicists who are familiar with the science issues, and as current and past members of the American Physical Society, we the undersigned urge the Council to revise its current statement on climate change as follows, so as to more accurately represent the current state of the science:

Greenhouse gas emissions, such as carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, accompany human industrial and agricultural activity. While substantial concern has been expressed that emissions may cause significant climate change, measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today. In addition, there is an extensive scientific literature that examines beneficial effects of increased levels of carbon dioxide for both plants and animals.

Studies of a variety of natural processes, including ocean cycles and solar variability, indicate that they can account for variations in the Earth’s climate on the time scale of decades and centuries. Current climate models appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.

The APS supports an objective scientific effort to understand the effects of all processes – natural and human – on the Earth’s climate and the biosphere’s response to climate change, and promotes technological options for meeting challenges of future climate changes, regardless of cause."

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...al_society.pdf

For the (today) 206 signants, see here: http://www.openletter-globalwarming....ignatures.html

Cheers.

[masalai]

Guillermo, That open letter should also be sent to all "environmental organisations in Australia"... I have no links in that sector, nor do I seem to be able to broach the "minder wall" of bureaucrats surrounding politicians... Useless bunch or retards in Government here... I hope you have better luck with your contacts / links / resources...

[jmolan]

I found this blog when I read this is the place where 62 mb of the bum emails were posted. (if you haven't heard of the emails you will soon)

Looks like this Blog spot is a place for anothother opinion to gather.

http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/200...#comment-12788