What Do We Think About Climate Change

[Jimbo1490]

Originally Posted by rambo!

A bigger problem will be food supply and a mass movement of peaple caused by change of making a decent living and income.

Why would there be a problem with food production? Warmer has ALWAYS meant a wetter climate; more precipitation, not less. The ice ages were dry, dusty and stormy; that much is known from the sediments found in ice cores deposited during the ice ages. And with CO2 levels rising, crop yields all over the world have been increasing; that's 'old news' by now. There's no reason to believe that trend will not continue. If you believe we really are headed for 3-5 degrees more global average temps, then that means large portions of North America, Northern Europe and Asia will likely become arable, which they have not been for many centuries.

Most likely none of this will happen; we are just in a mild warming and will probably only add a degree or two more over the next century.


As for the issue of decreased ability of "making a decent living and income" you should be more concerned about negative impacts of the 'solutions' to the AGW bogeyman than the actual 'problem'.


Jimbo

[Jimbo1490]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

I did manage to burn about 100 pounds of wood this weekend.

100 pounds?? That's sissy stuff!

After the '04 storms, I had about 100 trees down on my land, about 90% oaks of various kinds. Many (about 25) were very large diameter (18-36") with very straight sections of 20' feet or more. I just hated to see all that great wood just burn, so I started milling them up with a big 90cc chainsaw I bought just for the purpose. After a couple of logs, I decided it was too much like work, (not to mention one qt. of gas for each cut) so I gathered them all up for a big bonfire. I estimated about 50 000 lbs of wood burned that day. Flames were about 40' high. Wish I had taken some pics of that

Anyway, here' a pic of the first log to get turned into lumber. The bar on that saw is 30". Virtually all the other logs in the picture (and many more not in) were burned a couple of months after this was taken.



Jimbo

[Marco1]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

A United Kingdom court has ruled that a man can take his employer to court on the grounds that he was discriminated against because of his views on climate change.

Tim Nicholson was made redundant last year as head of sustainability for a property company Grainger Plc, the UK's biggest residential landlord.

Mr Nicholson successfully argued that his moral values about the environment should be recognised under the same laws that protect religious beliefs.

The religious police will be knocking at your door soon, so be careful what you say and who you talk to.

[Capn Mud]

So does that make Al Gore God - or just the pope ;-) :-D

[mark775]

That makes Algore rich beyond comprehension. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...llionaire.html



Reality check.

[Marco1]

Yea, the Pope of sort...he makes the oil companies look like a bunch of amateur boy scout.

Where are the suckers who vote labour or democrat or worst...green ?

[Marco1]

Originally Posted by Jimbo1490

I just hated to see all that great wood just burn, so I started milling them up with a big 90cc chainsaw I bought just for the purpose. After a couple of logs, I decided it was too much like work, (not to mention one qt. of gas for each cut) ...............

Anyway, here' a pic of the first log to get turned into lumber. The bar on that saw is 30". Virtually all the other logs in the picture (and many more not in) were burned a couple of months after this was taken.

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Jimbo

Yes, milling with a chainsaw is not easy and a 90cc sounds like big but without a guide you are up the creek without a paddle.
Is that a Homelite 925 in the photo?
I mill with an old Homelite 1050 100cc and it is just adequate, I am looking for a Sthil 090 137cc. Petrol consumption should not be an issue unless your chain is not sharp or some other problem with the saw. You should have probably rented a portable band saw mill. That oak would have made good roof rafters, door or table planks or furniture timber once dry. Too late now.

[Jimbo1490]

Originally Posted by Marco1

Yes, milling with a chainsaw is not easy and a 90cc sounds like big but without a guide you are up the creek without a paddle.
Is that a Homelite 925 in the photo?
I mill with an old Homelite 1050 100cc and it is just adequate, I am looking for a Sthil 090 137cc. Petrol consumption should not be an issue unless your chain is not sharp or some other problem with the saw. You should have probably rented a portable band saw mill. That oak would have made good roof rafters, door or table planks or furniture timber once dry. Too late now.

I have a guide; it's one of those 'mini's' which rides a straight piece of 2 x 6 lumber nailed to the log. The saw is a Jonsereds 90.

Jimbo

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Marco1

Mr Nicholson successfully argued that his moral values about the environment should be recognised under the same laws that protect religious beliefs.

That's what environ-funda-mentalism is all about: the new warriors of the Temple of goddess Gaia

Originally Posted by Marco1

The religious police will be knocking at your door soon, so be careful what you say and who you talk to.

[hoytedow]

Jimbo, I know it ain't much, but every little bit helps. Rain depends on impurities in the atmosphere in order to form water droplets, and besides, I only live on 80' by 100 foot plot of land within the city limits, and it saves the rubbish from landing in a landfill. '04 hurricanes dented my truck and ripped off my tv aerial. Some of this wood dates back to then as well, having been stacked for years. Time to get rid of that which never returned to the elements.

[Marco1]

I love global warming it makes me feel all cosy and don't have to pay for the extra heating.

[masalai]

There is just climate change, and it cycles and cycles and cycles, bloody boring isn't it

[triman692003]

Seriously thinking of selling up on the mainland and moving to Tasmania. IF global warming is true, by the time 10 years have passed I'll have to worry about sunburn again, while I watch ,my mangoes ripening.

Sorry, sarcasm, but I think global warming is promoted by those who also brought us the Y2K bug and TQM

[hoytedow]

Whatever makes Al Gore rich. He wasn't the first in his family to pull the wool.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by triman692003

Seriously thinking of selling up on the mainland and moving to Tasmania. IF global warming is true, by the time 10 years have passed I'll have to worry about sunburn again, while I watch ,my mangoes ripening.

Sorry, sarcasm, but I think global warming is promoted by those who also brought us the Y2K bug and TQM

Don't worry about the sarcasm, its about the only thing that keeps me popping in to this thread.

A similarly stupid thread would be something like "Will breathing air kill you"

Or " Death is fatal yet remains popular"