Wharram Child of the Sea Alternatives

[mrreardonmetal]

I'm looking for alternatives to Wharram's Child of the Sea.

I'm looking for a very "ethnic" look, shallow draft, economy of build, camp-type accommodations, 36 to 40 feet.

Thanks for the help...

[gonzo]

What's wrong or what don't you like about Wharram's. They are proven designs.

[mrreardonmetal]

I love it, and will probably build one. I'm not looking for something "better" than a Wharram. I"m just performing due diligence, before I commit myself to the project.

[gonzo]

I used to own a Tangaroa34. I loved it. The boat performed well and sailed fast.

[jamez]

Originally Posted by mrreardonmetal

I love it, and will probably build one. I'm not looking for something "better" than a Wharram. I"m just performing due diligence, before I commit myself to the project.

There are drawings of a minimalist 39 footer shown on this site. No idea if any have been built.........

http://catamarandesigns.com/konktiki.htm

[mrreardonmetal]

Originally Posted by jamez

There are drawings of a minimalist 39 footer shown on this site. No idea if any have been built.........

http://catamarandesigns.com/konktiki.htm

Thanks,

I've made contact, asking if any have been built. I'll report back, in case anyone here is interested.

[ThomD]

So the question is whether the like-a-child-of-the-sea includes boats that are a few steps away. In that Category you would have Pahis, and then a step or two away from those you would have Wallers, and the v shaped Woods boats.

[Alex.A]

The only "problem" with the COTS is that for a 37' boat - you are really only getting 30' odd and the interior space of a 20 something foot boat......
Could get a lot more for that length - even keeping it "ethnic" - like headroom and storage?

[Alex.A]

If you do build one - blog it - or report back here?
Like the design.
Nothing but good reports from Glenn Tieman.
How many of them have actually been built? Know of 5....
Unfortunately the Amatasi doesn't have the same appeal either.

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by Alex.A

Unfortunately the Amatasi doesn't have the same appeal either.

Yes, I was hoping for a scaled-down Child of the Sea rather than an expanded Tahiti Wayfarer, though I understand that the simpler construction will probably appeal to more people.

[marshmat]

Originally Posted by Alex.A

The only "problem" with the COTS is that for a 37' boat - you are really only getting 30' odd and the interior space of a 20 something foot boat......
Could get a lot more for that length - even keeping it "ethnic" - like headroom and storage?

Wharram's published musings on that exact issue suggest he doesn't see it that way. From his point of view, you're getting the length and proportions that are appropriate for the weight you're hauling around. If maximum living space per unit length is a critical factor, look for a Richard Woods or a Peter Snell boat. It's a very different design philosophy, and the type who's attracted to a Wharram CotS will likely balk at a Snell Easy- and vice versa.

That said, consider a Woods Windsong or Mira as possible competitors to the Wharram CotS. Similar size and capabilities, roughly similar general layout, very different appearance and rig.

[Dryfeet]

I'd be thinking of asking for an enlarged version of his latest Amatasi 27. It retains the Wharram allure and the hull design seems greatly updated from his previous design shapes (i.e. pahis, ethnic, etc, etc) I'm very intrigued, with seeing even how the A 27 looks and works in practice. I also expect he'll expand the concept line-- maybe I'm just hoping he will....

[Alex.A]

Nothing wrong with a minimalist design philosophy - but have you seen pics of the COTS with Glenn sitting on the berth - he cant even sit upright. Then there's a pic of Hanneke cooking..... it's what you'd expect from a 27' boat......
Personally i like it and a scaled down version - using same hull depth etc would be better...
It wouldn't be too hard to make a ply version - it and the Pahi's are reasonably similar? The ends might be an issue tho' - but then are they really necessary?

[david@boatsmith]

The COS vessel is indeed a very special vessel. There are not really any concessions to creature comfort. The long hulls with even longer overhangs are part of the design concept. If you lop off the overhangs and change the hull shape and increase the interior volume then maybe you should start with another design entirely. For me personaly the COS has no appeal.

[pogo]

A proven craft for shallow and deep waters that might suit your needs is Janbart de Jongs Wadvogel.
Wadvogels look better ,are faster , point higher and are easier to handle than Wharrams.
They have slim doryhulls with a ratio about 14, are pretty light and very seaworthy.

Scroll down and click on the pix:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31326081@N04/page2/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31326081@N04/page3/

pogo