used blue water capable cat's under $125K..recomendations???

[oceandreams]

Looking for a used cat at the lower end of the market for primarily cruising, but I want it to be safe (with proper precautions) to go from the Caribbean through the canal to Hawaii, tahiti, Aus, NZ, etc. No long term cruising in the middle of nowhere, but I want to be able to go about anywhere you'd likely want to cruise. Otherwise $25-100K buys a lot of plane tickets.

Any recommendations on what to buy or possibly more importantly what not to??


Seen a few Geminis that have caught my eye.. thought I really would prefer the trampoline to a hard deck. (or should I not)? Loved the look of a Wildcat. If I had the money, a lagoon 420

[jamez]

What about this? buy in Oz and sail back


http://www.multihulls.net.au/index.php?page=ed&de=77369

[oceandreams]

Need live-aboard capable, the lack of a more formal bridgdeck saloon kinda takes it out of the equation. If I was racing it might be a different story. I do like the sail it back aspect.

[jamez]

I missread your tramp wish as wanting air-space between the hulls . Also no idea how many people you need to accomodate. But i recon for a couple one could lose one double berth in favour of a dinette in the galley hull, and have a bimini over the gap in between (the hulls). Your destination list is kinda tropical, maybe a soft-top could work??

[oceandreams]

unfortunately ones priced at your end of the spectrum are going to have to wait a year or so to save up, unless I win the lottery. I hope your able to sell it before then.

[peterAustralia]

something out of the box
probabaly not your thing.. but

http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/vide...ng-ontong-java

an eight minute video of Hans Klaar and his 71ft voyaging canoe
now it is currently for sale now in New Zealand, asking $55K US.

If you look through the video you can see that it basic, not westernised. However it has gone ten thousand nautical miles. It does seem sound.

Even if you spent $15K adding things like hot showers, more refinements etc etc etc. It is still doable.

Note the self steering with rubber cord.

If you really really want to go... then yes you can. How much refinement do you need? do you need radars, depth sounders, or is heaps of space and unpainted wood acceptable.

some backgroud info on Hans Klaar
http://www.atomvoyages.com/articles/hansklaar.htm

there is some more info available.
google ontong java hans klaar

I like the bit at the end.. James Wharrams comments, why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars when you can do it this way (paraphrasing)

It is a good video!

[jamez]

Originally Posted by oceandreams

unfortunately ones priced at your end of the spectrum are going to have to wait a year or so to save up, unless I win the lottery. I hope your able to sell it before then.

LOL. Its out of my price range too. Its not my boat and I have no interest other than IMO it looks good value for money.

Oceandreamer.......

well, so right.

[CatBuilder]

I'll have to agree with Apex1.

There isn't anything out there for catamarans to cross the Pacific in, unless you like Wharrams.

[oceandreams]

Originally Posted by CatBuilder

I'll have to agree with Apex1.

There isn't anything out there for catamarans to cross the Pacific in, unless you like Wharrams.

In my price range or catamarans period?? I've read several articles on Lagoons making ocean crossings.

[P1nkfloyd]

I know this is off topic, but did you complete your Nicky Cruz 25 that you discussed in the "K24T versus Buccaneer 24" forum, #4? If so, what do you think? I've sent an email to Delaveau Multihulls, but I'd love to have some first hand observations (and some pics would be even better) before I commit to that instead of the Bucc 24.
Thanks for your time.

[CatBuilder]

Originally Posted by oceandreams

In my price range or catamarans period?? I've read several articles on Lagoons making ocean crossings.

I'm sorry. I haven't seen any Lagoon in that price range at all.

[jamez]

Originally Posted by P1nkfloyd

I know this is off topic, but did you complete your Nicky Cruz 25 that you discussed in the "K24T versus Buccaneer 24" forum, #4? If so, what do you think? I've sent an email to Delaveau Multihulls, but I'd love to have some first hand observations (and some pics would be even better) before I commit to that instead of the Bucc 24.
Thanks for your time.

Still building. Pics here get updated from time to time. Will PM you.
http://crew.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.p...=14022&start=0

[pjssailor]

Take a look at Catalac. When I first saw these boats I thought they we just plain ugly.
They look way too much like a stink pot. But over time, partly because of my wife's insistance that we look at them, I did. The more I looked and learned the more I became interested. I now think they probably are one of the few bargains. Very strong durable boats. Sail better than they should, lots of room and load capacity. And seem to be pretty safe. Comfortable caravaning.

Lloyd

[sandy daugherty]

buy now
sail local, sell
fly to OZ
buy, sail, sell
fly to Indonesia
buy. sail, sell.
write a book; pretty friends, lots of pix.
Fly to Turkey,
etc.