Team Macif to join the Ultime trimaran club

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  1. Corley
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    Team Macif have added their support to the Ultime class with VPLP scoring a design request for an oceanic racing trimaran of around 100' to be skippered by Francois Gabart. An extensive and ambitious program of solo events ultimately working up to a solo round the world attempt.

    http://www.macifcourseaularge.com/actualites/un-trimaran-aux-couleurs-du-groupe-macif-en-2015

    and an article on the dailysail:

    http://www.thedailysail.com/offshore/13/65333/0/new-macif-trimaran-for-francois-gabart

    I thought it would be interesting to do a comparison with the current holder of the record Francis Joyon and IDEC II and challenger Thomas Coville's Sodebo

    My observation from the provisional specs is that VPLP are pushing the beam out relative to the Iren's designed Sodebo and IDEC it's still not extreme but will provide more righting moment. This boat will have a 20m (65') beam approximately vs about 16.5m (54') on Sodebo and IDEC.

    Macif

    A trimaran of about 100 feet long in the final category, intended for offshore navigation alone.

    Length: 30 m
    Width: 20 m
    Mast height: approx. 35 m
    Surface of sails to the close: 600 m²
    Downwind sail surface: 700 m²

    Sodebo

    Mise à l'eau : juin 2007
    Port d'attache : La Trinité sur Mer
    Architectes : Nigel Irens / Benoît Cabaret
    Calcul de la structure : John Levell
    Dessins des appendices : Martin Fischer
    Etudes hydrodynamiques : Yann Roux
    Constructeurs : Boat Speed (Australie)
    Poids en charge : 12 tonnes
    Mât : basculant 35m
    Surface grand-voile : 237m²
    Surface solent : 158m²
    Longueur : 31 mètres(102 pieds)
    Largeur : 16,55 mètres (55 pieds)
    Toutes les voiles sont en Cuben Fiber ou en D4

    IDEC II

    Longueur hors tout : 29.70 m
    Longueur flotteurs : 24.5 m
    Largeur : 16.5 m
    Poids : 11 t
    Surface de voilure au près : 350 m²
    Surface de voilure au portant : 520 m²
    Hauteur de mât : 32 m
    Chantier : Marsaudon Composites Lorient
    Mât et bôme : Lorima
    Appendices : Gepeto
    Calculs : Hervé Devaux
    Voiles : Incidence Brest

    and for comparison Groupama3's specs, this is the Jules Verne trim so the mast fitted for the Route du Rhum was shorter (anyone know how long the "short" mast is ?). The sail area and mast height were reduced for the Route du Rhum when Franck Cammas solo raced the boat to victory.

    ◾Build date: 2006
    ◾Architects: VPLP
    ◾Type: Trimaran
    ◾Shipyard: Multiplast
    ◾Length : 31.50 metres (103.3 ft)
    ◾Width : 22.50 metres (73.8 ft)
    ◾Displacement : 18 tons
    ◾Mast height: 41 metres (135 ft)
    ◾Sails : 557 sqm / 828 sqm
    ◾Crew: 10

    and the solo specs with shorter mast and renamed BPVII

    Architectes : Cabinet VPLP
    Nom officiel : Maxi Trimaran Solo Banque Populaire VII
    Numéro de voile : 19
    Longueur : 31,50 m
    Largeur : 22,50
    Déplacement : 18 000 kg
    Tirant d’eau : 5,70 m
    Hauteur du mât : 33,50m
    Structure : carbone-Nomex
    Voilure au près : 411 m2
    Voilure au portant : 678 m2
    Toute première mise à l’eau : juin 2006
     

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  2. Corley
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    A video showing construction progress at CDK technologies on the new Macif Ultime trimaran to be skippered by Francois Gabart.

    http://youtu.be/kAWwoBPDc1o

     
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    Wow! Far out construction and far out operation! Top 1% only thank goodness.
     
  5. Doug Lord
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    Macif Test Boat

    Striking new 24' foiler from Macif/Francis Gabart :
    This boat is being used as an experimental test boat close to scale of the full size Macif to test foils and foil combinations. In the picture below you can see two different ama foils both of which work like uptip foils with intrinsic altitude control. Both amas have rudder T foils.

    http://www.macifcourseaularge.com/a...ratoire-flottant-au-service-de-la-performance


    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/m24?source=feed_text&story_id=1282012811878630

    http://www.macifcourseaularge.com/

    NOTE: One of the French guys on facebook claims that the daggerboard has a "horizontal plane, trim everything". Just spectacular if true!UPDATE-no evidence found for this claim anywhere so far.

    [​IMG]
     

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