TC601 trimaran design by Tim Clissold

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Corley, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. waynemarlow
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    Buying 2 halves and all the bulkheads is pretty much the total package and for a few dollars more you could get the whole hull fresh out of a mould with nice fair gelcoated surfaces needing no painting or fairing.

    Despite those on this forum saying that you can create hulls in just a few hours and whole boats in a few weeks, the real truth is that to create a good looking boat that has good resale value and designed by a good naval architect, costs both time and money, probably far more than most people realise.

    So why do we build boats when it's far more logical to simply work harder at your day job and cutback on the extra costs of the Latte on the way to work and buy a Pulse. That's an odd one to answer but for as long as man has tried to conquer the sea, we have built boats. Certainly building the TC601 has been an enjoyable labour of love and one of those life experiences that needed to be ticked off.
     
  2. Russell Brown
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    Right on Wayne! Good on you for being a doer and not just a talker.
     
  3. waynemarlow
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    Sort of going off on a well trodden route here, I can only extol the virtues of foam core, its incredably easy to form and bend and shape, far more so than timber. One cannot cut timber with a simple knife blade. Remember I put one side of the TC601 hull together in its formers on my own in 1 1/2 days, with a further 10 man hours to lay it up. Could that be done in any other materials, I would doubt it.

    As I have always stated, there are pros and cons of the timber v foam core debate, theres those that like old school timber and the likes of myself who like the composite route, theres nothing wrong in that, it produces boats in pretty much the same shapes and time frames.
     
  4. Jetboy
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    I'm all for foam core. I'm just trying to figure out a way to get more marginal builder to build. I think there are folks who don't have 500 hours to do a build or $50,000, but might have $10 or 15k and 100 hours to spare that would be happy to do the assembly without needing a workshop etc.

    How's the progress coming?
     
  5. waynemarlow
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    The hull is painted and off to get the F18 in the morning to start the process of marrying up the two. I'll take some more piccies and update the website.
     
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    @waynemarlow

    You´ve probably been busy with the build and other things that life can bring at you, and I'm here only to cheer you on. ...and to let you know that the followers of this project appreciate everything you've shared with us on this thread... but PLEASE, give us a taster of what's acoming ;)

    No pressure,

    "It's ready when it's ready!" :)
     
  7. waynemarlow
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    Lami

    Yup sometimes one has to back off on the home front and get back to work.

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    The image is pretty poor as its just about to start to rain here but I'll change it on the website when I can get a decent photo.

    I had allowed until the end of July to have the whole project completed ( 3 months by 2 guys @ approx 4 day weeks ) but we have fallen short, not by too much but enough that I have to realise that I can't finish the boat this summer and will have to finish it off over the Autumn and Winter. Shame as it can get get cold and pretty un welcoming sailing wise here in the UK over the winter and I don't have a workshop where I can totally fit the boat out in its fully spread state.

    Even I who had built a number of boats or modified a few, failed to realise just how much time is involved in getting all the small peripheral things like trailer dollys built and thinking about how to rig the boat let alone make up the likes of nets and such. There's still some ways to go.

    Never the less we'll try to get it done as soon as, but from here on until Xmas I had hoped to catch up on the work front plus we have the Rugby World Cup and as I'm a big Rugby fan, there's going to be a lot of beer drunk as we celebrate Englands victory.
     
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    Incidentally just how long England has been around, the converted chapel to the rear in the photo was written about in the Domesday Book ( 1086 ) and King Henry the 8th's wife Jane Seymour was rumoured to have visited it, all the Barns to the rear right are all 16th - 17th Oak framed barns now converted into houses, who said wooden structures don't last.
     
  9. Doug Lord
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    Exceptionally good looking main hull.....
     
  10. waynemarlow
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    Yes it's one of those shapes which look right from all angles, with the Ama more foward than usual it still looks right.
     
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    Thank you for the picture, it's looking good!
     
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    New and upcoming Designers...

    interesting project... congrats for the first hull ! - Maybe some more will follow ;-)

    Short question, wayne: How you poked into Tim Clissold ?? - Who is this guy ??

    For me I hear this name first time... which is not a critics. I have noticed about the PULSE (as his brain child), but didnt notice this name on its own. - Probably demonstrates that I am not deeply involved in the multihull racing circuit.

    Surprisingly I read on his website (citiation): "Recently I’ve enjoyed being part of the team that made many parts for the winning Oracle AC 72 cat."

    Seems Tim is one of these quiet guys working in the background, hm ?

    The Multihull scene needs new designers urgently and "fresh blood", we cannot only look back to the "Golden Multi Oldies" of Dick Newick Design etc. ... but it seems, Tim is no more a youngster, right ?
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    So with curiousity I lurked around and noticed, that TC Design was involved in other interesting projects, e.g. designing the TimberWolf Trimaran... nice boat on first view (winner of the 2013 Route 66 Yacht Race from Auckland to Whangarei):

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3nlTvl0hK0


    I am not sure, if Corley related to the same TimberWolf Trimaran he described some days ago (in 2012) ????????????? :)
    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/chris-cochranes-first-trimaran-design-44655.html - I suppose this boat was for sales in 2013 - https://www.facebook.com/crew.org.nz/posts/146748808813395

    Tks for sharing your project !
     
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    Jay, Clissold also designed the Weta 14' trimaran:
     

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    Ah.... :D . Okeys... yep. Of course I know Weta :) Great boat ! Not yet very present in Europe.
     

  15. waynemarlow
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    Jay, Tim is a very approachable designer and is highly regarded in the NZ design circles with good access to computer modelling and where needed, knowledge of similar minded designers with specialist knowledge. Following on from design discussions between us, we had a crack at a 20ft Tri design.

    I had an idea that 20 ft Tris historically had been built with slender main hulls to conform to traditional multihull design and by consequence suffer badly when loaded with kit and passengers ( hull drag when the main hull submerges ), I also was aware that the 18ft Australian skiffs had got around this problem with fatter more rounded lower surfaces and that they sort of defy computer modelling. By simple trial and error with Berthwaite designs at the forefront, the skiffs have reached a point where weight of the crew is not so critical in light air racing confirmed by the way the 49ers I race against with my A Class and F16, seem to just sail off into the distance despite being about the same all up weight.

    Tim's Weta design went some way toward the direction I had sought, that of a Weta on steroids with a cabin and using computer modeling based around the underwater shapes of the 49ers and such like, we evolved the TC601 shape. It's certainly a fat bottomed skiff with a cabin and I have high hopes for it.

    It's a pity work commitments and time have prevented it's launch this year.
     
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