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Old 11-06-2010, 03:19 PM
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Man!

What is going on out there with these sailors? I'm getting different reads on the two threads. One only talks about the big boats, making it seem that they are the only race. This one talks about the big trimarans, the 50 foot tris and even a couple of comments about the monohulls.

I like this better because of the different points of view.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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What is going on out there with these sailors? I'm getting different reads on the two threads. One only talks about the big boats, making it seem that they are the only race. This one talks about the big trimarans, the 50 foot tris and even a couple of comments about the monohulls.

I like this better because of the different points of view.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:30 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? Maybe you aren't really Doug Lord the way your name says. Maybe you are that person Cavalier who has no name? Maybe Cavalier is really you? Whatever you are, take it somewhere else Cavalord.
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You have forgotten one. There are 4 sad personalities sharing the same body under the same rotten brain.

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Old 11-06-2010, 05:55 PM
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Posted today from Francis Joyon aboard Trimaran IDEC

JOYON PLAYS ALL HIS VA

Saturday, November 6, 2010

"If the final victory in Pointe--Pitre's giant trimaran Groupama 3 and its skipper Franck Cammas seems the favorite event of many forecasters, he is a man who did time for cure. Francis Joyon, author tonight in one of the most formidable tumbled in the wind in the squalls and heavy seas to the Route du Rhum ninth name, with a whopping 556 miles over 23 knots average , plays with swagger and panache a chance certainly tenuous, but real.

As indicated files and weather analysts, the situation on the Caribbean arc, after the passage of Tropical Depression Tomas, is the most anarchic, and the last 36 hours of racing promise to see to multiply by the hour the scheduling and rankings vary significantly differences. Phase as the happiest days of his legendary record around the world solo performance with his boat, the skipper of the maxi trimaran IDEC, despite a lack of sleep exponential, retains sufficient clarity to implement a strategy of race made him one of the major players in the last act of the race. Flunked that night in the east and south of its direct rivals, it grows back its option, with the strength and conviction that made him the most impressive ocean of his generation.

"Again I experienced yesterday a day that reminded me of the deep south!" The voice still surprisingly bland Francis Joyon said, in words chosen and installed, a special night, however, aboard a rocket launched to sail over thirty knots over the waves, under a gray sky, heavy , charged with electricity, and a wind-like erratic, nasty trend that accelerates without warning, the better to slow down in swirling right or left. "The boat glides well, and it's a speed that I know and where I feel safe," says Francis. It was at the helm, often, and on deck, many, that Joyon has spent the fifth night of Route du Rhum, neglecting to adapt his sleep in an instant his sail plan the pace and the wind . Solent mainsail, one reef and solent and full mainsail again coupled to gennaker .... all at the scale of a Maxi trimaran class final. But in the end, Francis returned this morning at Thomas Coville, 230 and some miles behind the leader Cammas already undergoing final positioning for the arrival, with the long edge to the west.

The West Indian board and the rustling noise of great maneuvers trimarans Ultimate. Thomas Coville whip back down from his perch northerner in the wind still strong, and win in the south closer to the direct route. Cammas accompanies the rotation of the winds of North and East with the Adonis gybes to set sail for Guadeloupe. Francis, shortly after imitated by his pursuer Yann Guichard, played for an hour east of the water, with the possibility to shoot in the east wind when he sees fit. Common point for all those lonely, gray sky and the succession of violent squalls that give this its navigation so dangerous connotation. It's physical, it's tactical, it's strategic. It's a final as only these exceptional machines, more or less long, more or less broad, more or less draped are able to offer. Joyon and IDEC will take their place, until the final pass of the island of Guadeloupe we are promised "Hitchcokien", as the easterly wave and small tropical disturbances affect this year's road schemes usual. For large processions and will succeed in exhausting phase transition bit windy, with some a little close.

Offset in the east, Francis should first undergo a weaker wind. A momentary weakness to re-accelerate better when his opponents come to turn in quiet areas. That's after a terrible war of nerves as the Route du Rhum is bringing his winning in the time or beyond the record? this is one of many questions the test ...."
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:28 PM
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My sincere apology to anyone following this thread who seeks real content. The previous noise should be disregarded as an ugly distraction started by others with grand delusions and hopefully it will end now.
YOU do not decide when one of us brandmarks you as a cheater and liar Chris Ostlind!
Forgotten already that this psychotic behaviour is your hallmark? see:

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So, NOW you can go back to your armchair sailing and blow the Vuvuzela!
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:52 AM
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Ignoring the BS and moving on.

Here are the positions of the key RdR race participants for line honors as of midnight French time. (see below) Oh my, it's just as the meteo guys said it would be with serious no wind areas, zones of strong winds and a whole lot of guessing going on for the two front runners.

Whoever guesses correctly based on data being fed to them from their support crew, will win this event. Right now, it's anybody's race to win and to think otherwise is to ignore that which is clearly before them.

Prudent thinking would come to the conclusion that this is a pure and simple crap shoot with the ability of one boat to far outdistance the other in very short order based on the vagaries of the conditions and how those conditions arrive at the doorstep of each racer.

Sleep deprivation prevails, as do eating sequences to support the weary skippers. It's mano-a-mano out there as one wafting breeze comes floating by, changing the distance from one competitor to another. Both of these guys are superb at what they do, though there's no telling how each of them will respond to the long and pummeling route that each have taken to this point.

What an event that we have before us, with two world class skippers taking it down to the wire on two extremely well-suited boats for the task ahead. My hat is off to both of these gentlemen, no matter the outcome. Without a doubt, Franck Cammas and Thomas Coville are the two finest skippers of high performance multihull boats that sail for championships in big, blue water events. These guys are fabulous.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:06 PM
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Todays News from Sodeb'O:

NEWS: The tension rises in the tropics

"There are less than 500 miles to run before the bows of Groupama 3 and, as announced, the wind dies down at the approach of the Antilles Arc. The classification of 16 hours, Sodebo is 193 miles behind the leader. It also slows down in this "easterly wave" this great area "becalmed" punctuated by squalls that stretches across the road.

After furious gallop past three days, the place jumping. Puffs of clouds, it will have to be impeccable and as explained by Thomas in mid-day: "Compared to Frank, we are left with Sodebo a dangerous opponent to the end. The complex weather situation on the end is almost a godsend for us. We'll play that card thoroughly and is still in the game. "

The skipper quaver in without restraint. He knows himself and knows how to push its limits, as those of his boat. "We returned a little over 150 miles in three days, with conditions similar to our competitors. It takes a lot of energy. It's a real fight and it's very satisfying when it works. "

Combative

We had more poet Thomas at sea, but in this recliner that is more in the 110 meter hurdles as the marathon, it focuses on the performance of every moment and knows that his opponents are not choirboys. This is true for Franck Cammas (Groupama 3) which imposes its pace ahead of the race, but also for Francis Joyon (Idec), flashed to 18.8 knots to 16 hours and who chose to bypass the windless zone underneath. "I have a sacred opponent with Francis who is my opponent every day (since Tom tackles solo record). It went very high, and when you see where it puts the cursor and you stay close enough, not bad. "

Take a tour!

Before cutting the line, we must work around Guadeloupe in the port side: a hundred miles off the coast and the passage of the buoy of Basseterre which often complete set of balls nerves sailors sleep-deprived . Especially since, again, the scenario weather disrupts patterns with a trade wind is very weak and disturbed by the approach and Southwest under the lee of the island.

In addition to having done this twice lap on the Route du Rhum (1998 and 2006), Thomas also performed a tracking last July aboard Sodebo. "What have good film in mind," he explained this afternoon. "I'm the geographic pattern but the difficulty when you arrive on the islands, these are the grains with very violent storm systems. We'll have assayed it but it's in my mind that tracking will be interesting, even important, in the end. "
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:16 PM
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Also from today, a Sodeb'O magazine feature:

Tour de Guadeloupe, a tour de force

"No! Route du Rhum swallows do not gulp. To cut the finish line after more than a week of racing, it will still take around the island of Guadeloupe in the north. Thomas Coville and Sodebo have prepared for this regatta coastal closed the queen of the deck.

"When you fight for the win, the Tour de Guadeloupe is not trivial, imagined Thomas Coville, skipper of Sodebo few days before sending the Route du Rhum. It lasts eight hours for a hundred miles, you have the pressure to the end. And ideally, I'd rather be six hours ahead to head to the English! "

In the Caribbean Sea, which was long the scene of naval battles between France and Britain, this rocky islet in the north of Basse-Terre, marks the landing of the race. The instructions are concise: "Guadeloupe to circumvent in the port side (1). Head to Isle of English to leave port. Basse Terre buoy to starboard. Finish line near Pointe a Pitre. In 1978 the first edition of the race just played at the turn of the island off the coast of Pointe--Pitre, Mike Birch on the small trimaran Olympus outran the huge black monohull Michel Malinovsky than 98 seconds.

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"After a recliner without stop, the Tour de Guadeloupe is a difficult exercise, J. Thomas. In any weather changes. The trade winds tap on the island and winds generates contradictory. There are grains that evolve quickly and differently depending on the day or night. At first, the island is flat, then the land rises with large heat exchanges in the valleys. "Solving the equation involves chaining exacting maneuvers, while remaining lucid enough to make the right tactical options. "You need sleep early on to cope with physical exertion and frequent violent, says the skipper. It should roll and unroll the gennaker (325 m2) and play with the mainsail and the first reef. Remain along the coast or deviate? It's tricky. We must keep a clear head to the end. "

This summer, Thomas has completed his training at a bouncer to Guadeloupe where he took care of twice around the island: the first night (not easy to spot the puffs and calms) with Thierry Briend, boat captain of the team Sodebo, the second day, solo. It can also count on his experience of the Route du Rhum. "In 1998, there was no wind, I was tired, I thought I would never. He nevertheless won the monohull. "In 2006, it was very tight with Michel Desjoyeaux," he recalls. I made a mistake in the Canal des Saintes and I lost time by making a bank transfer too. Fortunately, I crossed the line nine minutes before him! "Third, Thomas was then mounted on the podium."
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:22 PM
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Important news today from RdR race control and Second Message from Crepes Whaou site below. The disturbing element at this time is that race control has not been able to make contact to verify the position of the boat.

From RdR News :

Crpes Whaou! Sustains Damage to Central Hull Bow.

Franck-Yves Escoffier will try to finish Route du Rhum-La Banque Postale with an emergency repair. Multi 50 Class leader Crpes Whaou! has sustained damage to the bow of the central hull at around 1530hrs (CET) this Sunday afternoon. Skipper Franck-Yves Escoffier has made an emergency repair and will try to finish the course.
The bow of the central hull was damaged back to level with the pulpit and solent tack fitting, due to the shock of an impact, either from a floating object, or from pressure of the waves.
Escoffier was sailing under double reefed mainsail and ORC headsail. The broken piece was about one metre long and was bent back 90 degrees, slowing down the trimaran considerably. But the solo skipper was successful in cutting the damaged section free. And he has managed to protect the exposed bluff bow area with a sail bag. He is intent on staying on course at a moderated speed for Guadeloupe.
The difficult sea conditions made the emergency repair operation difficult, and it is not known when and at what speed Escoffier will be able to make on his course. The emergency repair made by the Crpes Whaou! skipper was completely necessary as the water pressure of the waves could lead to delamination of the hull, extending the damage and compromising the watertightness of the hull.
A fourth victory in the Route du Rhum-La Banque Postale looks like it will elude Escoffier, whose performance since the start of the race has been widely acknowledged, all the more since the Saint Malo skipper had frequently spoken about how he was working to preserve his boat and sails. Indeed only this morning he had explained how he had reduced sail, taking his foot off the accelerator to account for the boisterous sea conditions.
It is a tough blow for Escoffier who is known for the careful preparation of his boats. In ten years of Transatlantic Racing each year, he has only once previously been forced to retire, from the 2004 Transat.
Speaking at 1900hrs CET Escoffier said: "It's hard to face after all these months of preparation. I don't know what happened. There was nothing on the bow, as I wasn't under gennaker. It was probably the pressure of the seas hitting the boat from the side that caused the bow to break away.I have finished the emergency repair. I'm advancing at 7 knots but with a square bow, which isn't very practical. I filled the rear ballast tanks to ease the pressure on the bow section. There's still 30 knots of wind and four metre high waves."


Also This From Escoffier at Crepes Whaou website:

Pancakes Wow! Loses its Central Hull Bow

"Franck-Yves attempts to finish with a makeshift repair
This afternoon at 15:30, the bow of the hull of Pancakes central Wow! broke just before the solent chainplate (in front of the pulpit) as a result of a clash with unidentified floating object or pressure waves while Franck-Yves sailing under mainsail 2 reefs and ORC.
The piece of stem about one meter long is bent 90 degrees and the boat slows down considerably.
Franck-Yves is currently trying to cut the tissues that hold the broken piece. Then strap it on and try to stump protect it with a sail bag to move at low speed to Guadeloupe.
The current sea conditions make the operation quite difficult and we do not know when or how fast Franck-Yves can resume its course.

The makeshift repair proposed by Franck-Yves is necessary. Indeed, the pressure of water at high speed could peel the outer fiber layers of the hull, further damage and cause a leak.

A fourth win in Route du Rhum is therefore beyond the Franck-Yves Escoffier, whose performance since the start was universally welcomed, especially as the skipper Malo had always successful, since he was sailing on a multihull, to preserve his mount. This morning it said it had cut the canvas and lifted off due to a sea strong enough.

Blow to Franck-Yves Escoffier with known special care he brings to the preparation of its vessels, and 10 years had never had to throw in the towel for damage in any of its chairs (one per year) except 2004 in the English Transat (fin broken).

Quote from Franck-Yves Escoffier, attached to 19 pm tonight:

"It's hard to live, especially since this Route du Rhum represents many months of preparation. I do not understand what could happen. There was nothing on the bow because I was not gennaker. It is probably under pressure from packets received by the sea through the bow finally caved. I finished the repair of fortune. I rose at 7 knots but with a square bow, it's not very practical. I filled the ballast back to relieve the bow. There are still 30 knots of wind and four meter waves."
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:44 PM
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From the website of Trimaran IDEC

THE WORST NIGHT OF THE RACE

Sunday, November 7, 2010

"By far the worst night of the 9th Route du Rhum that Francis Joyon has just experienced. His strategy included weather, he was conscious of great uncertainty, the fault in this vast magma storm that he must cross to move to Guadeloupe. But it is clear that no files or the forecaster warned more could anticipate conditions encountered Dante in the middle of the night by Maxi trimaran IDEC. The wind, like crazed, has ceased to twirl, speed, collapse, like Francis to push the giant to its limits moral and physical. Long hours becalmed under heavy black clouds that were interrupted by sudden and violent squalls jostling the machine, and the skipper dived into an abyss of uncertainty as to adjustments to be made. Assessment of the night, a small increase to the mark, therefore a gap now with the leader Cammas, and yet, few assets in the hands of skipper Locmariaquer who, after some rest, having to use them well until the last card .

The deal tightens with the approach of the time of settlement. Franck Cammas is no longer in the middle of the afternoon as 474 miles from the finish. He flunked admirably, after an unbelievable series of 7 jibes aboard the largest multihull fleet on the road from where Thomas Coville tumbling, offering a magnificent checkpoint on the race. Francis Joyon had no expected dividends last night of his position is. An "easterly wave" kind of large magma weather laden with grain bars his way to the West Indies, and Francis had bet on his escape to the West to drag gennaker to the West Indies. Slower than expected, the movement of this mass was ultimately cruelly trapped. The skipper of IDEC, 355 miles behind the leader, remains faithful to the tactical plan developed in close collaboration with Jean-Yves Bernot, he knows that this area maddening most experienced sailors, will also cover, today the two big multihulls that precede it. Building on the exceptional potential of IDEC, it will then play its trump card to the bottom, accelerating in the East of Guadeloupe in good shape and hopefully he finally stabilized in wind strength as in direction. If this pattern were to materialize as the classification of the afternoon suggests (Francis 10 knots faster than Thomas VMG), the prospects of a great duel for second place with Thomas Coville could take shape during the circumvention of Guadeloupe."
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:54 PM
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Latest News from the Class 50 leading trimaran, Actual. driven by Yves de Blevec.

Route du Rhum La Banque Postale November 8:

Damage aboard Actual

"The 8th day of racing, the Multi50 Actual Yves Blevec the victim is a casualty. The skipper is safe and organized its survie.Actual is still racing.

French time is at 1:00 Monday morning Yves le Blevec, skipper of Multi50 Actual, warned his team and the race director from damage on the stock arm starboard bow of the multihull. He slumped his sailing under mainsail and ORC in 20 knots of wind southeast.

Actual lies equidistant between the West Indies and the Azores. On the advice of his Christian Dumard router, it is heading west at a reduced speed of 8 knots to fall out of the rough sea area in which it operates.

The situation is stabilized. The skipper held a cell survival in the back of his boat, safety equipment, life raft, life jackets, GPS, lamp, phone and knife handy.

The immediate objective of the skipper is out of the disturbed area to consider a repair with his team and the architect of the boat.

Yves Blevec is still in the race, leading Multi50 and fifth competitor in all three grades behind four multihull category Ultimate.

Back on the run

Since the departure from Saint-Malo, Yves Blevec was in second position behind Pancakes Wow! Franck-Yves Escoffier. On Sunday, the skipper reflected sailing conditions difficult lows of 4 meters, a wind of 30 knots from the south-east. At midday, he described conditions "beautiful" but difficult to handle a boat. The objective of Yves was and still is, more than ever to preserve his boat.

Then he learned that Pancakes Wow! abandoned, Yves Blevec had reduced his speed by taking a third reef in the mainsail and described "peaks that were breaking huge wreaths on the boat." He expected to spend one more night to get out of this delicate regime in the course of the day Monday. He then took the leadership of the fleet Multi50, 224 miles ahead of his nearest opponent, Aquitaine - Port Medoc Lalou Roucayrol."
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I suppose public communications are discrete to guard performance advantages. Has the the bicycle powered mainsheet proved useful ?
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I suppose public communications are discrete to guard performance advantages. Has the the bicycle powered mainsheet proved useful ?
Of course I can't be sure, but as a tool for solo handling of the Groupama 3 trimaran, I'm fairly certain that the bike has worked as planned. The team had plenty of time to get it configured and tested before the race. If it had not proved functional, it would have been gone from the deck before Cammas left St. Malo.

The following is a report by Coville, aboard Sodeb'O from this morning:

NEWS: It (the wind) restarts!

"After a Sunday as difficult with no wind, Sodebo has regained his speed in the middle of the night. The maxi-trimaran is now progressing at a good fifteen knots, heading for Guadeloupe.

During the long and tiring slowdown Thomas Coville, Franck Cammas took the opportunity to compare his Groupama 3 to the finish line in front of Pointe--Pitre. At eight o'clock this morning, Groupama was only 281 miles from the finish, with, in its wake, Sodebo to 278 miles north-east then Idec to 334 miles in the East.

The approach of the Caribbean will be easy for any of the competitors. Still stunned by fatigue, stimulated by the prospect of ending, they should slalom in a string of islands, outwit the vagaries of wind and no wind gust between brutal soft. They will still keep an eye on the trajectory of each other and with sufficient clarity in their decisions. "I'm not going to ease off now! "Warned Thomas Coville at the auction yesterday afternoon."
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