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| float broke off... trimaran capsizes Hi, Dutch article: http://www.schuttevaer.nl/nieuws/act...den-gered.html ".... een van de drijvers afbreekt en de trimaran omslaat." Google translation in English: http://translate.google.com/translat...state0=&swap=1 ".... one of the floats broke off and the trimaran capsizes." Is it a Dragonfly 920 ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I feel very sorry for those folks... Regards, Angel ![]() |
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| I think you're right-sad. http://www.dragonfly-trimarans.org/d920_photos.htm
__________________ yes, it is a revolution ---"So (yet) another new world begins." Andrew Hurst, editor of Seahorse magazine, August,2011 |
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| Ouch, at least nobody hurt and by the looks of things all of the boat was recovered. Is there any info on what happened? I guess a waterstay failed somehow? |
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| On the good side, she stayed afloat
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| Those ama's have quite a bit of flotation, the beams should be at least strong enough to submerge them comfortably without breaking off. Yes, it is a pity, she looks like a nice boat !
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| maybe not the waterstay It looks to me like the crossbeam may have failed just above the waterstay. The front beam, the one under most stress seems to be folded where you would imagine it to go. The float seems to have buckled under. The rear beam or waterstay could have gone first and then broken the front beam. We will need more info. cheers Phil |
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| If there was a cable running through each beam, tied to the ama and the hull, could it have prevented a capsize ?
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| Yep, this is a 920 alright, just the same as the one I have been sailing for 2 years. This is the first mishap I have heard of on any of the DF series tris. I wonder if we'll get an explanation? They are just so impressive when you work them. The connections are really over-engineered (but very smooth and easy to move), with additional bracing in both lateral and vertical planes. It's got me beat - must have been a catastrophic failure somewhere! On close inspection I can see the collapsed (starboard) side beams have folded back into docking mode. DFs fold laterally, not vertically like a Farrier. There is also no fat cable brace from bow to fwd outer beam - a safety brace on the newer models which prevents accidental folding. I wonder if these two things point to a "whoops I forgot to lock the outwinder!" moment. Bugger. Why the float would break off remains a mystery - the arms fold together normally, but perhaps under pressure of sail and chop, things got out of sync? Love the translation from Dutch!
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| This comment from Aussie Dragonfly agent: "That is an old 920, before they started making curved beams. I’ll bet is was operator error."
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| Circumstances Something about the circumstances. It happened on the IJsselmeer, a big shallow lake of 1100 km² with an average depth of 5 to 6 m. It's known for its steep short waves which give a nasty chop at 6 Bft. But that should not be dangerous for a DF 920 with an experienced crew. It is not known yet if it was an experienced crew and if they knew how to operate the easy folding system of the DF 920 correctly. The wind was 6 Bft according to the KNRM (Royal Netherlands Sea Rescue Institution) rescue report. Here is the KNRM rescue report in Dutch: http://www.knrm.nl/30waar_wij_zijn/1...cle=13979&hm=3 It's the same story as in the newspaper (the newspaper got the story from the KNRM) but the original KNRM report has the wind data at the bottom ‘‘Wind SW 6 Bft’’ IJsselmeer: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=5...97388&t=h&z=10 Angel |
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| Similar thing happened up here last year. Turned out it was operator error, they forgot to mount the pins that lock the amas in the open position! Dragonflys are extremely solidly built, probably why they don't do well as racers in general. Alan |
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‘‘Dragonfly 35 lost one pontoon just before the start’’ (Google translation) ![]() ‘‘Human error caused wreck... Security procedure was not respected...’’ (Google translation) ![]() Good thing is... whatever you do... they stay afloat... ![]() Cheers, Angel |
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After 1½ years I still wondered what caused the failure of the 920. But the front beam can't be broken because of a good repair after an accident, so it must have been bad repaired..?? Do you have info on that..?? But whatever... I think if such a crucial structural element is damaged in an accident it's better to replace it anyway instead of trying to repair it . . ![]() Cheers, Angel |
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Damage report DF 920-77 Cruising "Vaya con Dias", built 2002 This DF 920-C was sailing on the Ijsselmeer, Holland on 3 October 2009 in wind force 5-6 Bft. (17-23 knots) with smaller frequent waves - one reef in the mainsail. Sailing course was approx 70° to true wind, boat speed approx 11 knots. Onboard were 2 persons (owner + a sailing friend). Suddenly there were cracking noises - the boat heeled over and both SB-side wings folded back and broke up. The boat rolled over to Sß-side, and the owner had time to pick up the VHF and call for help, where the professional water rescue service was nearby to assist. No personal injury - the crew did not even get wet. The boat was towed into the nearest dock. Mr. Jens Quorning from Quorning Boats has inspected the boat and found the following conclusion to the incident. The cause of damage is a chain-reaction of mistakes. In total, Quorning Boats has now built 165 of the Dragonfly 920ls since 1996, of which 110 are Cruising, Racing or Touring versions and 55 in the Extreme version. We have found that the Swing Wing Iines and maybe cables, sometime at an earlier stage have been replaced (not by Quorning Boats). By replacement of this, the special Frederiksen block inside the aft wing has been demounted and mounted again in the wrong position. This is a single block in stainless with becket and a single Delrin sheave. By installing it all back, the Swing Wing outhaul cable has been fitted in the becket end of the block only for rope (this has a 6 mm Cleves pin only), and the rope was fixed at the strong end, where you have an 8 mm Cleves pin. Like this, the rope also does not run correctly in the block. This has resulted the block inside the aft wing - the small weak 6 mm cleves pin - to bend the block open, and the cable for the Swing Wing outhaul system to come loose! Thus, the actual Swing Wing system was out of function as backup! We still have the aluminum safety tube fitted on the backend of the side of the cockpit and on to the aft wing though! Why did the boat then collapse? By a closer look at the boat and parts, we could see that the aluminum safety tube has been secured OKby locking it with the stainless locking pin. However, this 10 mm stainless pin was bent - arid, we found this aluminum safety tube in the boat - partly bent - one end broken off by the hull side and at the "wing end11 the stainless fitting on the wing was ripped off and was still attached perfectly to the aluminum safety tube. All the 6 special 6.5 mm MoneIl rivets were still perfectly intact, and these did not show any sign of darnage. as if for example the stainless fitting and rivets were sheared off! Going through the history of this particular boat, we know that it has had two collisions on the SB-front wing. The last collision was so serious that the front wing had to be replaced last year. The investigation of the boat proved to us that the whole stainless fitting at the end of the aluminum safety tube had been punctured through the composite back wall of the aft wing, which normally will never happen and which we have never seen before on any other DF 920. The aft wing has had hidden damages from the two earlier incidents at and around this stainless fitting. The aluminum safety tube also c1early shows older defects, as the holes for the locking pins were quite elongated and was dramatically different from the port side tube on the same boat, wh ich looked safe, sound and in normal condition. Obviously, we are very sad at Quorning Boats to see things like this happen, where the boat quickly gets blamed for the damage, and we must urge the owners of DF 920 Cruising, Racing and Touring models to carefully check this part of their boat, if they have run into some kind of collision with the boat. However, this can be backed up by a forward diagonal safety cable from the bow of the centre hull to the outer end of each forward wing like on the DF 920 Extreme and the DF 35 models. This is an easy thing to install- on existing boats as weil. The damaged boat, IIVaya con Dlos'', has suffered amazing little damage. On photos everything from the incident looks dramatic, but basically there is only a very small GRPrepair under each SB-side wing base. Two new wings are needed and repair on the deck of the SB-side float. All inside interior is OK. Mast and rigging are all intact - except for windex and top light as weil as a bent/broken head foil and a new SB-push pit in the cockpit. The boat will be back sailing on the Ijsselmeer next spring. For and on behalf of QUORNING BOATS ApS Jens Quorning |
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