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Old 07-19-2009, 01:27 PM
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Thank you, next time i'm at the mall i'll check Barnes and Noble.
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:27 PM
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So, I post a Excel sheet (uploaded by another member in another thread) here. There you can play a bit with your el. loads and requirements.
You will notice, that the Fridge and AC units are the main loads, and that a PV array ist not sufficient to handle these loads. You therefore have a "generator ship" with some additional PV array and batterie storage capacity.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:12 PM
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Thanks apex ill check it out.
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:15 PM
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power consumption

Thanks, Apex
It's hard to get accurate facts and this spread sheet lays it out nicey.

I can only say that I would minimize power consumption by scratching the AC, TV, Microwave, some lights, and use low power refrigeration and try to get along without many things that would normally be refrigerated.

Add a reverse osmosis water maker for fresh water for drinking, cooking, and final rinse washing only. Catch rain water when possible. Many would not like to do without these amenities but I find they aren't missed as much as you think. It's just another way of life and you use small well placed fans only when and where needed and you adjust your day to the daylight hours.
Radar would only be used after dark. Different strokes for different folks.

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Old 07-19-2009, 07:17 PM
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Ahhh, I see, you got it!
Ship is just a synonym for compromise!

There will be many more to come up.
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:10 PM
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I like the FP lavezzi 40 and am seriously considering it, i'd like your opinions on it and do any of you know a blog on one of them?
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:39 AM
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Consider outremer 42 as well

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I like the FP lavezzi 40 and am seriously considering it, i'd like your opinions on it and do any of you know a blog on one of them?
The fontaine Pajot catamarans look luxurious but they aren't as fast and graceful as the Outremer. http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/

You can buy them second hand in Europe and then sail the transatlantic from Europe to Azoren to Caribean back to where you live Saves a lot of money and it's a nice trip.

Here are 9 Outremers second hand: [url]http://www.multihullworld.com/results.asp?type=&keywords=outremer&minprice=0&berths=&maxprice=&length=&x=26&y=10[url]http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/
Ohh.. and the name Outremer is derived from " Outre Mer (French)" like in being in the full ocean and not derived from " Out extremer" as I first thought. But both ways of explaining the name are applicable.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:30 AM
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ty i'll check them out, and theres a lavezzi on youtube going 22 kts, on a delivery.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:50 AM
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500k should get you a reasonable Catana on the used market. They have a decent mix of performance, safety and usability for cruising cat.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:02 AM
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I like them also, now i think i have a few options now time to compare =]
Outremer40-43? models they've changed
Fountaine Pajot lavezzi 40
lagoon 440
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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The fontaine Pajot catamarans look luxurious but they aren't as fast and graceful as the Outremer. http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/

You can buy them second hand in Europe and then sail the transatlantic from Europe to Azoren to Caribean back to where you live Saves a lot of money and it's a nice trip.

Here are 9 Outremers second hand: [url]http://www.multihullworld.com/results.asp?type=&keywords=outremer&minprice=0&berths=&maxprice=&length=&x=26&y=10[url]http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/
Ohh.. and the name Outremer is derived from " Outre Mer (French)" like in being in the full ocean and not derived from " Out extremer" as I first thought. But both ways of explaining the name are applicable.
Jesss, another French design, more power, less comfort, same quality. As I mentioned above, the French are the multi lovers and builders. Almost the whole cat charter fleet worldwide is French made.


>>>then sail the transatlantic from Europe to Azoren to Caribean<<<
you mean the ARC rally?
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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500k should get you a reasonable Catana on the used market. They have a decent mix of performance, safety and usability for cruising cat.
Thats true but:






do the pictures tell you enough?
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:11 PM
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So, I post a Excel sheet (uploaded by another member in another thread) here. There you can play a bit with your el. loads and requirements.
You will notice, that the Fridge and AC units are the main loads, and that a PV array ist not sufficient to handle these loads. You therefore have a "generator ship" with some additional PV array and batterie storage capacity.
800 Watt refrigeration? 4600Watt AC? Is it a boat or an apartment block?
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:14 PM
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:26 PM
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800 Watt refrigeration? 4600Watt AC? Is it a boat or an apartment block?
I changed the figures for the fridge (he will not have 6), the AC maybe too small though! What is 4,6kW? 16.000 btu... that does´nt cool down a cruiseship.

But nice to see, you do´nt sleep.
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