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Old 01-30-2011, 02:58 PM
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Crowther 37 Tempest Trimaran Drawings/Study Plans

Hi,

for a redesign project on a Crowther 37 Tempest trimaran I need some drawings of the boat.
As it is a fairly old design, I hope someone can help with some scans.

I need especially a deckplan showing the superstructure & cockpit in plan view and a sailplan.
A longitudinal section would be awesome too. I have a profile drawing and a typical crossection from "Maelstrom" which I believe is the same type.

Studyplan quality would suffice, as I will not need to produce production plans from the plans.

Further I wonder if anyone has some thoughts on the plan of how squaring the bows off (in profile) might influence the boats behaviour. As the boat in question already had its stern lengthened, I would suspect that adding some area in the forefoot should not put her very much out of balance. I will of course check the centers of sail & lateralplan position before doing this.
I am also considering a daggerboard in the Amas.

Last but not least, has anybody an idea who makes good plywood wingmasts in Europe? Alternatively who has good drawings for building such a mast?

Kind regards & looking forward to yours replies,

many thanks,

Franziska
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:14 PM
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Don't know if this is any use to you, its from the catalogue......
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:47 AM
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Hi Franziska,

Did you buy this one..? link - link - link

It's also a stern lengthened 33. If that's not your boat than maybe the owner (post #53) of the one for sale has some more info.

If you have the boat from the north Adriatic, are you going to sail her to Hamburg?

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Old 01-31-2011, 07:50 AM
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Not yet...

not yet, but I'am considering one.

Before I want to see if I could get her to look decent (not from the back, she is already sexy there). The front of the doghouse looks terrible though.

Yes, I'd love to sail her there. Why are you asking?

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Old 01-31-2011, 08:17 AM
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I was just wondering, it would be a long trip from that side of Italy...

There are not to many stern lengthened Tempests I think. Here in post #8 & #11 some talk about 'Nomad' which is also a stern lengthened 33, and in post #16 & #33 a 33' with a better looking doghouse, maybe that owner has some info for you.

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Old 01-31-2011, 03:02 PM
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@Jamez

Many thanks, yes the sailplan is very handy to have! As of the deckplan I am still hunting for one.

@Angelique

I'll try to get in touch with Buckster, his doghouse is much more pretty then the one of the boat I consider.
Regarding the sail from Italy to Germany, yes it is a long way and that is the biggest obstacle right now. If the boat would be in Brittany or closer the decision would be much easier.

Funny enough I lived in Slovenia (and kept a racing cat in Izola) til 2004.

Maybe I'd have to sail from Italy to Gibraltar or Tunesia one summer and then do the rest the following. Deck freight is no option as it costs 23000€.....

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Old 01-31-2011, 03:30 PM
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I have a profile drawing and a typical crossection from "Maelstrom" which I believe is the same type.
Same type yes, but Maelstrom is 43' 6"



Thanks to Gary (post #12).

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Old 02-01-2011, 07:15 AM
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Good point Angel!

Thxs for your remark. I first downloaded only a small image on my mobile where I could not read the text...
True there is a size difference.

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Old 05-17-2011, 05:27 PM
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Finally got the boat ;-)

Hi,

horray! I finally bought the boat. "Wellenläufer" has turned into "Aquaris".
For more you can look here:

http://trimaranaquaris.jimdo.com/

I'll start the refit once she has reached Hamburg in autumn 2011

Until then, I got to deal with the bills ;-)

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Old 05-22-2011, 06:46 AM
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Congrats Franziska . . ! !

New thread here for the refit . . ?

Thanks for keeping us updated with the website

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A note. Aquaris aka Wellenlaufer was lost at sea within site of land in realatively calm conditions just off the coast to Portugal. Not at all sure I have enough of the story to comment. I think it is a reminder to be very carefull about who to let take charge of a boat.

Sad to see such a great boat end so bably. How do you sink a wood boat? NO signs of wood or hull damage or failure.
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A note. Aquaris aka Wellenlaufer was lost at sea within site of land in realatively calm conditions just off the coast to Portugal. Not at all sure I have enough of the story to comment. I think it is a reminder to be very carefull about who to let take charge of a boat.

Sad to see such a great boat end so bably. How do you sink a wood boat? NO signs of wood or hull damage or failure.
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Aquaris aka Wellenlaufer lost at sea

Here appears to be some information:

http://trimaranaquaris.jimdo.com/log...na-to-hamburg/

LOGBOOK PART 2 - Barcelona to Hamburg - Skipper Peter Schwab

DATE 28 August/2011
POSITION "5sm vor Sintra"
CREW Peter & Fritz

Very very sad news, my trimaran Aquaris has by now been most likely to a large extend been destroyed by wind, waves & towing trials. The crew is save on shore, but the insurance company decided yesterday, that it is not worth an expensive salvage operation with divers and the like.


Peter tried yesterday, with the help of the maritime police and some heavy pumps to lift her enough to tow her to a port. Still the waves were to big and the pumps to small. So the insurances expert gave the order to set her adrift until monday at least.
If someone manages to tow her to port until then, we may try to negotiate, but the insurance expert and Peters description instill very little hope on me, that anything substantial can be salvaged, which is worth beeing shipped home.


It seems like my childhood dream is lost. I am happy though, that at least Christopher had a chance to make a last & wonderful sailing trip on her. She had a lot of potential.

I must be one of the very few boat owners, who lost their boat without ever having had a chance to sail on it.
Still, I will work hard to start from scratch working on my dream!!!

We got a Navtex message yesterday stating the following:

RA12
MONSANTORADIO
270139 UTC AUG 11
NAV. WARNING NR 1514/11

PORTUGAL-CONTINENTAL PORTUGAL-
WEST COAST
S/V AQUARIUS PARTLY SUBMERGED
IN POSICION XXXX N/XXXX W
NO POB.
DANGER TO NAVIGATION.
NAVIGATIONAL WARNING
NR 1513/11 CANCELLED
NNNN


Even though boats are not alive, they grow attached to our hearts!


R.I.P. Aquaris!
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SAD SAD NEWS.

Aquaris was lost at sea on August 27th 2011 of the Portuguese coast. That is at least the impression I have based on what her skipper Peter and the insurance expert told me on the phone.

The crew is save but the insurers expert seems to see her as a total loss not worth beeing salvaged by a professional salvage company. More in the logbook.

Franziska
Logbook Part 2 - Barcelona to Hamburg
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DATE 28 August/2011
POSITION "5sm vor Sintra"
CREW Peter & Fritz

Very very sad news, my trimaran Aquaris has by now been most likely to a large extend been destroyed by wind, waves & towing trials. The crew is save on shore, but the insurance company decided yesterday, that it is not worth an expensive salvage operation with divers and the like.

Peter tried yesterday, with the help of the maritime police and some heavy pumps to lift her enough to tow her to a port. Still the waves were to big and the pumps to small. So the insurances expert gave the order to set her adrift until monday at least.
If someone manages to tow her to port until then, we may try to negotiate, but the insurance expert and Peters description instill very little hope on me, that anything substantial can be salvaged, which is worth beeing shipped home.

It seems like my childhood dream is lost. I am happy though, that at least Christopher had a chance to make a last & wonderful sailing trip on her. She had a lot of potential.

I must be one of the very few boat owners, who lost their boat without ever having had a chance to sail on it.
Still, I will work hard to start from scratch working on my dream!!!

We got a Navtex message yesterday stating the following:

RA12
MONSANTORADIO
270139 UTC AUG 11
NAV. WARNING NR 1514/11

PORTUGAL-CONTINENTAL PORTUGAL-
WEST COAST
S/V AQUARIUS PARTLY SUBMERGED
IN POSICION XXXX N/XXXX W
NO POB.
DANGER TO NAVIGATION.
NAVIGATIONAL WARNING
NR 1513/11 CANCELLED
NNNN

Even though boats are not alive, they grow attached to our hearts!

R.I.P. Aquaris!
I feel very very sorry for you Franziska and wish you all the best to start realising a new dream.

Wish you all the best !
Angel


PS - Just saw ImaginaryNumber already posted the second quote while I was reading . . . . . .
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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Logbook entry from a day earlier in German . . . . .
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DATE 27 August/2011
POSITION "5sm vor Sintra"
CREW Peter & Fritz

hier schreibt Christopher: "ich bekam eben einen Anruf von Beatrice, der Mast ist runter gekommen. Der Crew geht es anscheinend gut, sie befindet sich auf festem Boden. Wünschen wir ihr alles gute und das nichts schlimmeres passiert ist.

Das ganze passierte gestern, zwischen Lagos und Lissabon. Der Mast ist ins Wasser gefallen, und Aquaris wurde dann abgeschleppt, soll aber angeblich nicht im Hafen liegen.

Neue Infos: Der Crew gehts gut, natürlich sitzt der Schock tief. Der Versuch ein Notrigg aufzustellen ging schief und die Crew wurde von Bord abgeborgen. Nun sind sie wieder unterwegs zur Aquaris, die hoffentlich noch schwimmt, und versuchen sie in eine Werft zu schleppen.


Google translation: - - (edit: automatic translation errors of the jargon a bit corrected)

Christopher writes here: "I just got a call from Beatrice, the mast came down, the crew apparently it goes well, she is on solid ground, we wish her all the best and nothing worse has happened.

It happened yesterday, between Lagos and Lisbon. The mast has fallen into the water, and then Aquaris was towed, but is not alleged to lie in the harbor.

New information: The crew is doing fine, of course, the shock sits deep. The attempt to establish an emergency rig went wrong and the crew was rescued from the ship. Now they are back on their way to the Aquaris, which will hopefully still swim, and try to tow her into a yard.
So, as I understand it now . . . . .

- Mast came down, circumstances and why is unknown for now . . . .

- Crew tried to set up a jury rig but failed.

- There was assistance it seems, the tow in the middle paragraph, but why not till they reached port . . . . .

- Don't know what happened to the outboard motor . . . .

Anybody who has info (Franziska ?) please post . . . .

Good luck !
Angel
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