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Old 10-14-2009, 04:09 PM
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Here's a quiz question !
1. What is the difference between the Kraken and the Buccaneer series?
2. What model and/or seize in each series?
Briefly:- The Buccaneer series were supposed to be Cruising Tris and the Kraken series Racing boats.

However the differences tended to be rather blurred.

The Kraken 40 for example, which set a record in the 1969 NY-Bermuda race , was also a fine fast cruiser for four people.

In Toronto Canada, a Buccaneer 33 built in F/Glass sandwich, proved to be a race winner, consistantly beating a similarly built Kraken 33.

To my knowledge that Buccaneer 33, "Robinknox" is still sailing.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:56 PM
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Well you have to compare apple with apple.
If a Kraken 25 and a Buc 24, both built as per spec and as plans, I wonder who would win?
By the way, you had a Buc28 before, do you still have photo of your boat? I'm comparing orange and melon
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:03 PM
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Leeway device

OldSailor7 or any one else !

For a B24 that is never in the water unless there's someone on it
What would you put on a B24, Daggerboard, Swing centerboard or swing leeboard In the hull or ama And to make it a little more complicated, why
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:13 PM
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For a B24 that is never in the water unless there's someone on itwhy
Why indeed.? Given that condition, just build it as per the plans.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:26 PM
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Thank you very much for all of your answers in these hard to find informations, they tremendously help me in my learning curve.
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:54 PM
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Does anybody have any good photos of the interior of an unmodified bucc 24? Bit of an odd request I know, but really useful in getting a proper feel for sizings and usability that plans just can't give you.

The toss up at the moment is between building a small tri or just going the arguably cheaper and easier route of refitting a small mono like a corribee or pandora - unfortunately there aren't many buccaneer 24s that I know of in the UK to have a look around.

OS7, have you still got some plans lurking around? If not, put me down provisionally for the next batch
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:17 PM
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Hello Joe Moore !
This is the only one I found up to now.
I asked the same thing a few weeks ago, but no one seems interested in posting one so I had to search for one my self.
I have other photo but I'm unsure if they're from a B24.
Sorry for the quality
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:28 PM
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But I found these two video that you see a glimpse of the inside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-SYOFG3Ow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMvUaNs5kQo
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:42 PM
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buc pics

There is a lot of detail in the first video that I had not seen before. Thanks for the links. Bruce
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:50 PM
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That first photo puzzles me since the boat is obviously at anchor or on a hard stand, otherwise the motor and life ring would be on the back of the boat and all the clobber on the bunks would be in the forepeak.
The latticey looking thing on the starboard side is a shadow and the vertical piece is the no: 5 frame.
What puzzles me is the weird box apparantly surrounding the centreboard case and the struts going out from that to the side stringer. I am afraid it looks like a bit of a Heath Robinson affair to me.

Let me tell you what I did with mine---although I am not suggesting you do the same, although it worked well for me.

I built a rectangular board box and inserted it thru the keel in the same way as shown in the plans. I stood it up vertically and made a centreboard with
parallel sides and a rectangular planform. The box was attached to the side stringers and the No:5 frame by two pieces of 1" x 12" pine, to take the athwartship stresses, and at the same time making a handy seat for the cook facing the galley, (built as shown in sheet 6 of the plans). The centreboard it'self had a cap on the top which effectively sealed the top of the case when the board was down, which it was most of the time. This made a nice little seat for two the other way round, at the fold-up table. Another seat stretched from there to the companionway on the stbd side. The folding table pivotting up from the top stringer on the port side.

If you stop the motion in the first video it gives a pretty good idea of what can be done. Thank you Bruce.

There are more ways to skin a cat, (or Tri), so it is really up to your ingenuity how you configure the inside of your B24 to suit yourself.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:16 AM
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Thanks for those, LucD. I'd seen the second video before now, but the first one is excellent - that guy really knows how to make a video showing bits of a boat and how they're supposed to look, rather than just clips of spray and hairy moments.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:31 AM
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You guy's are most welcome.
I want to build my first boat (B24). I sailed and repaired sail boat but never build one. I never saw a real life B24, this is why I'm gathering information like a squirrel. I want to know as much as I can on the finished product before starting. Or else it would be like the little brown surprise bag we bough for 2cent, and with my luck, I almost always got crappy stuff in mine. Or a puzzle for the one that have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:47 AM
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You think the box in the middle is attached to the center board? I guess it could be, maybe some sort of cover to seal the water from coming in the cabin.
I tough it was some sort of mast support with a box in the middle to put small things or maybe, some sort holder to extend the bunks width. There seems to be a plank on each side maybe to hols it.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:54 AM
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I got these photos but I'm not sure they're from a B24.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:28 AM
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Yes.
That is one variation of the B24.
Note the large cutout of the deck forward of the mast step.

That decking involves the structural integrity of the forward part of the hull.
We only cut an 18"(45mm) circular hole there to enable a crewmember headroom when sitting on the "Throne".
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