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Old 06-22-2011, 01:33 AM
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They do some very NICE wood work, but I don't see it as really innovative

Here is an innovative wood construction I posted a few years ago

The Cutts Method, building & repair
This is an interesting twist to wooden boatbuilding and repairing.
The Cutts Method, building & repair
Maybe, but they had patent their method. If you read the pdf file, it says everything. Basically, they cut the planking with a similar method (cad/cam?)used for the composite and uses sheets of basalt.
Do You see their new lobster? Well, I had an "idea" and asked them to rework it and turn into a motorsailer... I didn't have an answer!!! I don't understand why!
Thank You for the links. I will read them carefully. Ciao.
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It seems the stone boat may make a comeback.......

http://www.basfiber.com/
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:37 PM
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:54 PM
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it looks typically dutch and perhaps could have easly come off the drawing board of W. De Vries Lentsch in Amsterdam.
It looks to me very similar to the so called classic "kotter" yacht built by Cammenga round bottom with large and round stern and a high and flared bow. An old good looking vessel built out of steel very slow thow but very solid.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:03 PM
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Actually the post at the head of this thread is a 3 masted rig if you look closely,edit ok i may mistaken about it being 3 masted but it shure looks like a boom end to me on the lower forward deck, with a rounded stern,i dont seen any gaff's though. And scaleing out what i can see of the image from the door hatch height 90' or thereabouts.
Haven't seen anything on used boat market searched that comes close.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:21 AM
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When considering a motorsailer design/build/purchase the foremost priority is the class. A motorsailer possibly has more variations than any other vessel out there and one way to seperate the wheat from the chaff is to break them down into three classes, which in turn can be broken down into sub classes if one wishes to do so,
#1 30/70-- 30% motor boat, 60% sail boat -- This vessel's characteristics will be more efficient as a sailer than a motor boat and will appeal more to a sailing oriented customer who wishes to have the power and ability to motor medium to long distances if necessary. This vessel will be very close to most of the heavy displacement crusing sailboats out there lacking in good windward ability.
#2 50/50 -- this craft will appeal to those who want the space and power of a motor vessel, the ability to sail on a beam or following wind and most important the great fuel savings of motorsailing or the ability to get to port if the motor fails. Fuel costs can be reduced by 50%. The best and the worst of both worlds.
#3 70/30-- 70% motor vessel -- 30% sailer-- definately a motor boater who wishes to take advantage of some fuel savings but possibly more the comfort of steady sails.
In any discussion of motorsailers it is a good idea to indicate which class one is interested in to narrow down the discussion and thus gleam more good info, otherwise like motorsailers it will be all over the board.--

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Old 07-16-2011, 01:07 PM
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Don't forget L. Francis H. suggested that his Marco Polo was a 90-90 type.....
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:53 PM
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I've always had a weakness for her-and truley so she probably has 90% of the qualities of both.That concept of the easily driven fuel frugel hull is certainly coming back into style. Don't know i'd want to purchase-install-maintain and operate all that rigging though. I'm already getting so dam old and lazy I was playing around with the thought of boom roller furling for the main in addition to the pro furl set up i have for the jib. However luck was with me on that, I finally dug out the sails from that damaged and salvaged Barkhouse motorsailer I stripped, lo and behold the main is spanking new, the exact size i need with a Dutchman system to boot. After some 30 years of ownership I still browse Herreshoff's book ( sensible crusing designs)for info and ideas, one of those classics.
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Old 07-16-2011, 03:13 PM
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This one is probably about a 90-10.....I'm still waiting for sailing performance reports.....and I certainly don't have high expectations....

But the owner machined a very simple little roller-furler for the main boom that works beautifully, the sail is set flying on some of this new plastic super-string...very neat....and all comes apart quickly as the boat lives on a trailer.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:03 PM
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Nautical looking little craft, looks like a boat should look not something from outer space. Quite the rigging set up, I can see it would be a straight forward system to rig. Actually it would make a nice I'd say 50/50 or maybe as far as a 40/60 M/S if equipped with a standard rig and say 1500lbs. ballast down in a full keel. It's the looks and potential of such great looking compact little craft that just drives the creativity in me. Looks like an aluminium hull and a double ender to boot (quazi fan tail). I'm just guessing but also maybe a two or three cyl. little diesel driving a 3 blade prop. The fabrication looks excellent -- I like it-- Geo.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:09 PM
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More on that boat here.....

http://www.bartenderboats.com/images...206-9-2009.pdf

And photos here.......http://www.flickr.com/photos/5817789...7624980781279/

Actually I don't think more rig or ballast (which you have to pay for every day cruising) is worth while because the keel and rudder of this boat are useless for pure sailing. The 29HP Nanni is way too much power, unless you have to buck through a narrows against a 5 knot flood.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:47 PM
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Tad-- being a motorsailer nut-- I want to convert everything with potential into one- Speaking of motorsailers and conversion, my keel shell mould is working out just great. I think that foil section just might generate some lift .
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