Motor Sailers?

[jimisbell]

My Bruce Roberts 44M had all those features with the exception that the pilothouse did not extend all the way to the back of the cockpit, but it could have been made to do so. The engine was a 100 HP Perkins diesel ( hull speed at 1350 RPM) in an engine room with full standing headroom for a 6 footer. The aft cabin was a Queen sized bed and there were two single berths on either side in the bow. All the features you desire were in that boat and it can be made in either GRP or Steel. Mine was steel.

[Vega]

Originally Posted by VASCONY

Hi Viceroy, I'm sharing the same concept. Why don't you check Cabo Rico 38' and Northeast 400 at
www.caborico.com
Cheers

And the new Cabo Rico 42 pilot-house.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1570989/0

You can find other good modern motorsailors on these links:

http://www.c-yacht.com/yacht/hiswa/m...5/Foto27s.html

http://www.degeroyachts.fi/

http://www.nordship.dk/

http://www.fantasi-yachts.se/boats/index.php?page=2_0

http://www.northshore.co.uk/index.ph...ancouvr/van38p

http://www.wauquiez.com/ps41_uk.php

http://discoveryyachts.net/discovery/discovery_14.html

Regards

[Lyle Creffield]

Hi

One more for the list

http://www.radford-yacht.com/

I like the R14

Cheers

lyle

[VASCONY]

Originally Posted by Guillermo

Sometimes...
Thanks for the link to the Holterman 46 page. I knew this boat but I thought it was a Fisher 46 with another name. Aren't they almost exactly the same....?

Guilermo, I think, the Seaton's designed Cheoy Lee 53'; 63' and 78' also deserve to be in your list.

[VASCONY]

Originally Posted by Vega

And the new Cabo Rico 42 pilot-house.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1570989/0

You can find other good modern motorsailors on these links:

http://www.c-yacht.com/yacht/hiswa/m...5/Foto27s.html

http://www.degeroyachts.fi/

http://www.nordship.dk/

http://www.fantasi-yachts.se/boats/index.php?page=2_0

http://www.northshore.co.uk/index.ph...ancouvr/van38p

http://www.wauquiez.com/ps41_uk.php

http://discoveryyachts.net/discovery/discovery_14.html

Regards

Thanks for that! I even have visited the Fantasi yard-a lot to say.
What's your opinion of the new Island Packed SP Cruiser
Regards

[Vega]

Originally Posted by VASCONY

What's your opinion of the new Island Packed SP Cruiser
Regards

I am sure that it is a fine boat and that it will perform as Bob Johnson had intended:

http://www.ipy.com/PDFFiles/SPCruise...erComments.PDF
http://www.ipy.com/Default.php?Page=SPCruiser
http://www.hellieryachts.com/articles/spcruiser.phtml

But boats come in all styles and shapes, and this kind of boat is just not my cup of tea. I can not say that I find it beautiful, and I find the interior... kind of caravan, house like thing. Of course, it has a good quality and functional interior and this is a personal opinion that has to do with personal aesthetical preferences.

If I would choose a heavy motorsailor with trawler like capacity, I would choose a classical design, and a boat with an interior that looked like a boat interior, but again, this has to do strictly with personal taste.

My favorite heavy one is the Noordkaper 43:

http://www.noordkaper.com/Engels/index.htm

Regards

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by VASCONY

Guilermo, I think, the Seaton's designed Cheoy Lee 53'; 63' and 78' also deserve to be in your list.

Thanks Vascony. I'll review them.
Cheers.

[VASCONY]

Originally Posted by Guillermo

Thanks Vascony. I'll review them.
Cheers.

Guillermo, here are some pictures for a.m. motorsailors and also Cheoy Lee 52'
and Frances 34"







Regards,
Vascony

[Guillermo]

Thanks Vascony. Out of town for several days, I'll work on those when back.
Cheers.

[Gary Walth]

This is my first big project. A BR44 Mauritus built and extended by a kind old soul. He sailed it for 15 years as a liveaboard with his wife and then let it float unattended for another 12. I am putting a pilothouse on with bow thruster; my engine is a 50 hp perkins and I think with the new bulwarks and doghouse I'll need it. I designed it with a 3D CAD package that is intended for architecture but was able to force it into curvatures. Any comments experts.

[jimisbell]

My BR M44 used the 100hp (6-354) and that was suffient to keep it going at hull speed and burned little fuel. BUT...my GS 36 uses a 50HP Perkins (4-108) and that is barely suffient to keep it at hull speed and using almost as much fuel as the 6-354 did and the difference in weight is significant. The GS 36 weighs only 18,000 lbs and the BR M44 weighes in at 29,000 lbs. I think the 50 HP Perkins is too small for your boat. At least for good longivity. The 4-108 will run at 2800 RPM while the 6-354 will run under 1400 RPM. Half the wear.

[FAST FRED]

"The GS 36 weighs only 18,000 lbs and the BR M44 weighes in at 29,000 lbs."

With 3 hp per ton most hulls work fine at cruise speed.
30,000 lbs is 15 tons so would need about 45 cont hp , a 60 hp engine should do.

Unfortunatly the 4-107 is about 25hp in cruise if any longevity is desired .That 50 hp is an add mans dream.

Perhaps a different choice is in order.

At 25 hp the boat should be propped to cruise at .8 X Sq Rt LWL.

FF

[jimisbell]

I think 20,000 lbs is only 10 tons

[Stephen Ditmore]

Naval Architecture uses long tons. 1 long ton = 2240 pounds. You'll also come across metric tonnes. 1 metric tonne = 1000 kg = 2204.5 pounds.

[yipster]

good putting that straight but to most metric souls like forexample in supermarkets a pound is half a kilo