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Old 10-19-2005, 07:51 AM
greybeard greybeard is offline
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Steel/Alu Folkboat

Hi all,
Has anyone seen designs for a small sailboat.
What I picture is a 26-30ft Folkboat, fabricated in
steel or aluminium.
You know what I mean, a really pretty design for
hopping along the coast on weekends and able to stand
up against the wall when the tide goes out.

thnks
greybeard
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:35 PM
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Steel folkboat - or small steel boat.

While I havent seen a steel folkboat. There are other nice smaller steel boat plans about.

Attached below is:

- Top row right is Western Farmer's Cherub (adapted from Sam Rabl's Galetea and Picaroon) plans from Duckworks - older classical style but nice. An American sort of Folkboat!

- the two photos underneath are a Dutch 'Regina' - riveted galvanised steel (a member here owned one - do a search here)

- on the top row, left, is a steel Herreschoff 28 (H28)!!! in South Australia - goes to show that some plans can be adapted to steel/aluminium.

- Denis Ganley's designs - www.fairmetalboats.com/SteelSailDesigns.htm - his smaller classic 25' 'Hitch Hiker' is nice as is his Wood Island Commuter.

- there are plans for a steel 'Vertue' - laurent Giles - believe it or not.
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Old 10-19-2005, 02:50 PM
MarkC MarkC is offline
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I am not having much luck with my picture posts - so I will try another post.

William Atkin:

- Lisa Jane - very small (19 foot) and an old design but:



http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/LizaJane.html

and what about the Atkins Bellerophon. Not intended for Steel but I think convertable to steel. No problem with leaning this one against the dock during low tide:

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/Bellerophon.html

Pretty? Pretty hardy!
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:20 PM
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Small steel boat

Try the origamiboat forum at yahoo groups, Brent Swain designs include a 26' bilgekeeler that may fit the bill. Terrific boats!
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:02 AM
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Thanks Fellas,
Some of them look promising, I don't know how you find this stuff.!
As an aside.
Are the loft lines for the Folkboat available in Public Domain.?
Maybe I could have a go at producing a design.
Can't be much difference between designing plane wings and boat hulls, theyre both curvy.!

GB
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:16 AM
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I find these things with my constant looking, um-ing and ahh-ing about what's the best boat to choose...

I have a soft-spot for small-steel designs. I previously owned a fiberglass Marieholm Folkboat (M26) and sailed out of Sydney, Australia. It 'wracked' going over waves, and 'panted' a bit also - very disconcerting. After that steel and aluminium just made sense to me.

Produce your own design? - some have - but with such a big project and plan not being that expensive - why go to the bother? Save some time and trouble. There are good designs out there, you just have to find them!

You can look for Folkboat lines on the German Folkboat Association site - or are they on the Danish site?? But again, unless the designing is the fun thing for you - pick an established plan - see the Ganley plans on www.fairmetalboats.com There is also risk involved with steel and displacement. Why not use the material to your advantage - I am not sure if the Folkboat would allow that. The steel 'Vertue' from Laurent Giles might. I will try and post some other plans/links.

Below is Ganley's 'Hitch Hiker' US $380 for plans with steel cutting files available.
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Old 10-20-2005, 10:02 AM
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Graybeard,

Dutch waters are full of the steel boats in the size range, which you are looking for. Many of them are round bilge wineglass types if chines border you. Check the second - hand market before committing yourself to building. Here is the link to one of the sites:
http://www.botenbank.nl/
It's in Dutch but you will understand basics - by categorie choose zeiljachten, by rompmaterial choose staal.

On the other hand if you really want to build the boat I would recommend Brent Swain's origami.

Cheers,
Milan
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:21 AM
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Wow.!

Holland seems to be an Alladins Cave of Hobby Yachts.
I will be having a long long weekend in Holland to have a look around, thanks very much for this website.!
Just gotta get past the attractions in Voorburgwal ;-)
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