Small ship - Coastal freighter

[Landlubber]

Looking at building a small ship/cpastal freighter design same as the tramp steamers of the 60's to 80's but have been unable to find any lines plans with any sort of definition. It will have both a small hold and the rest would be like the modern expedition boats we currently see.
I have done numerous Google searches on small ships etc etc, but very little info really. Can anyone please direct me to a suitable site?

[Frosty]

Woooha thats what I want to do next. Some people think im nuts but I want a small under 100foot tramp cargo ship with a low reving air start something or other.

I know a guy here that has one, its over 100 years old --she an old whaler from Norway.

Ive seen them for sale but they are getting expensive ,--it seems every one wants one to play with.

[Hotel Lima]

Something like this?

http://www.maritimesales.com/MBM10.htm

[mydauphin]

There are a bunch here for sale. Around $250k and bring your welder...
The Coast Guard stops trafficking in drugs and sells them for dockage fees.

[DanishBagger]

250K in dockage fees?

[Landlubber]

I actually used to have one, it was 160 feet, in Fiji area. Great fun, it had a MAK direct coupled engine, 500hp. Only used 1.5 ton a day to run at 10 knots.

I have a friend that wants a good expedition type boat, so I naturally see these styles as being very good for the purpose. 100 ft is the max you can enter Sydney Harbour (98) without a pilot now so that is why we looked at that size, it is probably going to be followed by other cities too.

This time we will most likely build new, China is where I work, so it seem logical that it would be done there. They make plenty of bigger ones, my size is a bit of a problem it seems as everyone wants bigger. I guess we can scale down a larger one, but that will require being redrawn, I was hoping to get a stock hull and deck and go from there.

Danish Bagger, what do you mean by $250K in dockage fees. Privately owned, non commercial this vessel is to be.

[Frosty]

Hotel Lima thats far too big,--under 100 foot is imperative, not only because I dont want to spend hours working but its too big for me and the musus or coming into the marina.

There is one on the market and when I get time ille dig it out.

[DanishBagger]

Originally Posted by Landlubber

Danish Bagger, what do you mean by $250K in dockage fees. Privately owned, non commercial this vessel is to be.

I was merely responding to this:

Originally Posted by mydauphin

There are a bunch here for sale. Around $250k and bring your welder...
The Coast Guard stops trafficking in drugs and sells them for dockage fees.

Hence my question, whether he meant that there was dockage fees on those boats/ships to the amount of $250K?

[Frosty]

I want one thats about to be sold as scrap. I dont want fishing rights or Loyds certificates for this and that. It will be for private use,---A toy.

[mydauphin]

Here is what happens, They get impounded. Then there are store for evidence until case is heard. Whether case is won or lost, a year later dockage fees are due. Berths are very expensive here. I pay $1000 a month for a 70 footer. A 200 footer is paying at least at $2500 a month. Some are eventually sold for scrap but many are in very good condition. But I think you will need a crew for anything over 80 feet. These ships are navigable if you get engines running but they are not in top shape by any means. Many can not be registered in US, they wont pass Coast Guard inspections.

[DanishBagger]

Okay, now I get it. It just sounded like rather much money (in fees, not much for the ship).

Thank you for the explanation :-)