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Old 02-17-2011, 10:31 AM
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One thing that does help is the ceramic beads in the paint for temp control. I have a couple coats mixed with epoxy and it keeps the surface from getting to hot or cold.
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Tom,

I am considering to do the same on my deck with Hy-Tech ceramic beads, did you use them?

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Old 02-20-2011, 09:56 PM
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Tom,

I am considering to do the same on my deck with Hy-Tech ceramic beads, did you use them?

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Yes that is what I used.
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlMK0KWOJ4

just watch this video.
Dragon shield is a polyurea spray on coating.
I went to their site and recall seeing they do offer a roll on coating.

Look up polyurea on youtube to see people waterproofing cardboard box. and I saw one spraying a wood boat hull.
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Brian, your "substitutions" are precisely why I agreed to take the testing and non-disclosure agreement on. I can't revel the brands, though the high cyanoacetate content formulations are the best for DIY'ers. On metal it's working very well and some municipalities are using it on their structures. The oil rig guys have fallen in love with it...
I roughnecked on oil rigs in Oklahoma for a while, back when Moby Dick was a minnow and I was buff.... what we did back then was mix four parts of oil-based, high-gloss industrial enamel with one part of spar varnish. It hung on like grim death without chipping, flaking or peeling, even on dirty and oily surfaces. Which was most of the rig, most of the time; we didn't really have time to prep. We just slopped the paint on, any time we had an hour or two.

As a plus, it also gave the paint jobs some 'depth.' On clean surfaces, it looked like the paint was translucent and an inch deep.
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:01 PM
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These polyurethane coatings are gaining acceptance in the retail markets now after several years and a few generations of development. There are a few different types, but all work similarly chemically, though the filler materials vary widely. The most common filler is polyurethane waste (ground up polyurethane pellets of various sizes), some use rubber, probably as a marketing tool more then anything else, others ground up Kevlar and well frankly just about every other material you can think of.

These products fall into two different categories, moisture cure (true polyurethanes) and cyanate (activated) cure of which there are two sub groups. Common products from these coatings are truck bed liners, tank sealers, elastomeric roof coatings, industrial coatings, ballistic films, etc.

Like everything they have good and bad points to consider. The good are they are tough, durable, weather and chemical resistant, plus can offer some thermal insulation and isolation. With some of the formulations you can brush or roll it on. Many come with large particulate fillers to act as anti skid or a surface texture, though it can also be had or applied with a smooth finish. Most can be painted. On the bad side of the coin is the gloss retention on most truly sucks and they chalk up pretty quickly. On a bridge this isn't such a big deal. Then can be difficult to apply, especially the high percentage cyanoacetate cure formulations, which also happen to preform the best. These are the really good coatings that can be sprayed on a block wall and 5 minutes later have a car bomb go off next to it with significantly reduced damage. Some of these coatings are being tested for bottom paint replacement, because they don't let things grow on them very well.

In the end I'm not sure what to recommend, but the research is ongoing and long term testing has the jury still out. Steel is one of the products I tested this stuff on in recent years, but it wasn't my focus, so I didn't record long term results for steel, just general physical properties with age. I was after wood and 'glass results and the products I was testing proved very enlightening. I should also add that the US military is now using these coatings all over it's equipment to protect from the elements, moisture and chemical contamination.
Interesting. Appears to be a number of different 'proprietary product names' associated with these various coatings as well

This 'Dragonshield' is another of those similar materials??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlMK0KWOJ4
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