Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Construction > Boatbuilding > Metal Boat Building
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #16  
Old 08-05-2007, 06:36 PM
tja tja is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Rep: 11 Posts: 125
Location: canton oh
Tja

Hello, XL panels made by Greenwood products are used both in aluminum and fiberglass boats. It is guarenteed for life including labor last time I read there web site. Sincerely, Tom.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-05-2007, 06:57 PM
alan white's Avatar
alan white alan white is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rep: 1211 Posts: 3,325
Location: maine
Thanks, Tom. Labor too? ... they appear to be working hard to overcome some prejudices people have about pressure treated plywood of the construction variety.

A.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-05-2007, 09:55 PM
tja tja is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Rep: 11 Posts: 125
Location: canton oh
Tja

Hello, I went into Greenwood's web site and they have changed it some what. It isn't clear if they cover labor any more. Last time I was at there web site they said they hadn't had a failure of rot or delamination in the product since it's inception. I've used the product and was very impressed with the quality. Other then color and some extra weight you can't tell any difference from regular plywood except for it's obvious better quality in streightness , surface, and lack of voids.Sincerely, Tom.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-06-2007, 01:09 PM
August Ice August Ice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 13
Location: Biddeford ME
Has anyone heard of Lauan marine plywood?? My supplier is having delays getting Okoume or Maranti.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-06-2007, 05:25 PM
alan white's Avatar
alan white alan white is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rep: 1211 Posts: 3,325
Location: maine
You could use fir or phillipine mahogany (lauan). Lauan is fine, so long as it's made with marine-rated glue.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-06-2007, 05:40 PM
USCGRET/E8 USCGRET/E8 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Rep: 41 Posts: 164
Location: Nowhere
I would use (as I have) Interlux Interdeck. It's a (one part)Polyurethane Non-skid Finish for decks. It's a bit pricey at $35 a quart, but a higly rated product. Comes in 5 colors. Check it out:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...&classNum=null
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-07-2007, 12:42 AM
PAR's Avatar
PAR PAR is offline
Yacht Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Rep: 3125 Posts: 9,399
Location: Eustis, FL
Mercanti, lauan and Philippine mahogany are all one and the same material (sort of). It's a conifer (evergreen) that happens to look somewhat like mahogany (some of it and to an untrained eye). You must be careful about these woods, as the quality, species type, construction methods and adhesives used must be questioned, from this part of the world. It's long been well known, that lumber and plywood coming out of the lower western rim countries can be dubious and possibly mis-representative of what you actual get. Stick with well known importers.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-08-2007, 07:34 PM
August Ice August Ice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 13
Location: Biddeford ME
Thank you Par... I persisted on the Maranti BS1080 and as it stands they can only get 1/2 " and 3/8" Maranti so we'll end up using 2 of the 1/2 and 1 3/8 to do the transom and 1/2 " for the decks and seats. The 3/4 " was luaun.

Janet
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-08-2007, 07:41 PM
August Ice August Ice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 13
Location: Biddeford ME
Thank you Alan for the Hamilton Marine connection.. We went there Monday... Great prices and selection.

Janet
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-08-2007, 10:37 PM
alan white's Avatar
alan white alan white is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rep: 1211 Posts: 3,325
Location: maine
Glad you found them. Did you end up getting the ply from that guy in Yarmouth? I've never dealt with him, but I'm sure I will one day soon.

Alan
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-09-2007, 12:04 PM
August Ice August Ice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 13
Location: Biddeford ME
I've only talked to Katie over the phone so far. I shared some information on Okoume and maranti plywood that I found on a website www.boatbuildercentral.com and specified that I wanted Maranti BS 1080. She was very informative regarding the 3/4 " being Luaun exterior ply She's always willing to go the extra mile to get the right stuff for her customers. My ply will be arriving Tuesday. That will be my first time there. The Maranti BS1088 is about $97 for 4x8x1/2" but the other Maranti was $ 48 same size. Okoume was $148 for the same stuff but their supplier was having a tough time getting it in stock.

Janet
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-09-2007, 02:26 PM
PAR's Avatar
PAR PAR is offline
Yacht Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Rep: 3125 Posts: 9,399
Location: Eustis, FL
A tip for your transom, to make it stronger without any extra fuss, is to cant the grain each way as the plywood goes in. This increases cross grain strength considerably (the manufactures do it too). Each piece of plywood has several veneers making up it's construction. This produces grain running side to side and also at 70 and 110 degrees, which increases the cross grain strength fantastically. In fact, the ideal way is to cant it as much as you can, in your case 22.5 degrees would be ideal, but you might run into difficulty with the sheet not being big enough to cover the whole transom in one shot.

Draw up a semi scale picture of your transom and a same scale 4' x 8' sheet of plywood. The first one goes on long grain (8' dimension) straight across, from side to side, then see how much cant you can put into the next two sheets before you run out of plywood. Yep, it does produce a lot of weird shaped waste, but it is surprisingly strong.

This sketch shows the two layers of plywood angled around 20 degrees, which in your case is three layers. Make the 3/8" layer the straight across one.

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-09-2007, 08:15 PM
August Ice August Ice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 13
Location: Biddeford ME
Hello Par thank you for that tip.. I would've never known. It happens that there wouldn't be that much waste by looking at your diagram. We are also needing to replace the deck and seats in the bow, and under the dash. We could use some of the triangular pieces for the bow rider seats and compartment storage covers.

Janet
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-09-2007, 11:08 PM
PAR's Avatar
PAR PAR is offline
Yacht Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Rep: 3125 Posts: 9,399
Location: Eustis, FL
The arrangement shown above produces about 50% waste, which is considerable. I have many odd ball shapes stacked around here, hoping to find a use for them some day. It's not really waste, if it gets you back in the wet stuff, with a nice strong repair.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
material help please madmatt Boat Design 2 11-30-2006 07:56 PM
boat material / furniture material bogeyinthekeys Materials 7 09-10-2005 08:29 AM
Program Recomendations Goonda Education 1 02-10-2005 07:52 PM
Transom Core Material Aaron23 Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building 4 01-07-2005 10:10 AM
Best Material Aquaholic Boatbuilding 1 09-25-2004 05:27 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:00 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2012 Boat Design Net